No. Overland comes with air suspension. I got the limited, for that reason with the V8 and off road package 1.Not well versed on GC’s, but starting to look at them. Overland with 5.7 Hemi, Off Road Adventure package. Do those options get rid of the air suspension?
The real issue with the air suspension is twofold. First if something goes wrong with it, it can be hard to diagnose and fix. Second, if you get in an accident or the system has to replaced for some reason, parts and labor are very expensive. And lastly, can leave you in a limp travel mode if an error comes up with the air suspension. So net net, when it is working it is very good, but if it goes bad it can be a major headache. That is why i passed on it.How bad/problematic is the air suspension? Should I avoid it?
Thank you for your thoughtful post. You might have changed my mine. That, and the fact that the wifey really likes the Overland.A more complex system does come with increased risk and increased incidence of issues. But remember that it's normal to hear more negative online than positive because folks tend to post about problems more than they post about great experiences. That's unlikely to change because it's human nature. I don't know what the distribution of the approximately 800 JGCs that roll off the line every day is relative to vehicles with and without QL, but the "with" is a large percentage because it's standard in the higher trim levels and standard on any JGC that has ORA-II. That's a whole bunch of Grand Cherokees that have QL and you can be sure that even if there are more folks with problems on them than with regular springs, it's not a huge enough number to cause the manufacturer to rethink that system. The only changes to QL since MY11 have been minor things, AFAIK. It is what it is.
I've got 4000 miles on my Trailhawk with QL. So far no issues.
The Trailhawk with the 18's wheels. Lux, Tech and Safetly pkgs is by far the most luxurious vehicle I've owned. The ride sure as hell is better than the last Jeep I had on the trails on 31s then 33sThe wife currently drives her JKUR on 37” mud tires or my 2500 Power Wagon. I’ll bet she will love the ride and comfort of any GC, lol. Nice looking Trailhawk. I want her to look at those as well.
You certainly also have the option of purchasing the Mopar MaxCare Extended Service Contract (available discounted online ... see the many threads about it) to hedge against expensive repairs on tech if you plan on holding onto the vehicle for a long period of time. I never used to even consider such things, but these days, with all the "stuff" in vehicles, it's a worthy insurance policy to have over the long term. (this suggestion only applies to the Mopar plan...avoid third party stuff like the plague...)
I live in the snow belt on the south shore of Lake Erie. Just finishing my fifth winter with QL in my Overland, and haven't had a single issue with it. I'd get it again with no qualms. SilverBillet, I'd be interested in a link to those failure statistics.