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Hello All,

I have now moved onto my next mod, exterior v-leds. Reading through a variety of posts, there seems to be a mismatch in information on parts (oer perhaps I have misinterpreted some). Here is what I am trying to achieve:

Current: Jeep Grand Cherokee 2009 (export model) 5.7 Overland with HID, front and rear fogs.

planned: I plan to have v-led brake, tail and rear indicators, side markers, front indicators and daylight running 'lamps'. Later I will upgrade the fogs to HID/v-led depending on the outcome of this first stage.

Questions:

1) on the v-led website, there are two options for brake/stop and indicators (CK Configuration). Some threads state that the rear indicators only require CK Configuration, can someone validate this and also recommend if the brake/stop lights also need to be CK Configuration?

2) Resistors, there seems to be information where 3 Ohms or 6 Ohms is used, do all LED lights require resistors or is this application specific (assuming this is only needed for the turn signals)? would be interested to know which resistors where used based on the above planned application. the below link indicates a 3 Ohm resistor for the switchback front indicators, would this be required for non switchback front indicators, as well as rear?

http://www.jeepgarage.org/f187/how-to-install-vleds-dual-color-turn-signals-7.html

Any help is much appreciated, might be worth creating a sticky on the complete guide to led upgrade (if not already out there).
 

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Since you are export things are different.

09 us has a 3 pin and a separate 2 pin plug for reverse.

I would assume the export tail for 09 is a 8 pin connector???


Resistor is only needed on blink wire. Run 6 ohm between ground wire and blink wire. One each side. They get hot so place them carefully.

My guess is you do not need CK for the export.....but not sure. 2 minutes with a multi meter and you can figure it out. Go to autolumination.com for a good picture.
 

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Thanks robpp, will have to go pick up a new multimeter as I can't seem to locate mine, checked for the link, will check which pins are grounded and live.

I presume resistors will be needed on the front and the rear, as I saw some threads where resistors are put on the front indicators (same as what you mentioned, spliced across the ground and live, thus making the resistor in parallel to the actual bulb). Just a bit confused as some threads say 3 Ohms and some say 6 Ohms, wouldn't this be governed by the wattage in the leds?

Will check tomorrow if its a 3+2 pin or an 8pin, I would assume it would follow European models (8 pin) as the brake light is separate to the indicators (3 bulbs in total - brake, backup, indicator), and hence separate signal lines for brake and for indicators.:cool:
 

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front has 2 bulbs blinking so needs 3 ohm MOST OF THE TIME. i have heard of peeps needing 1.5 to get them to work but not my experience. i say 2 bulbs because it counts that little side marker bulb under the amber. Now on export headlights you also may have DRLs....so i cant be 100% sure of anything. all my headlight experience is US.

rear is single bulb blinking so 6 ohm.



I had some 06 WK tails that I had all LEDs on each side and it required ONE 3157 and one 3157 CK. IIRC CK was in the middle position. which is where your AMBER bulb lives. thats why i suggest the multi meter to confirm. I also had mine jumped so both bulbs blinked or brake.

I had some export tails once but dont recall anything about the bulbs as I didnt try LEDs.
 

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if you need 6ohm resistors, i bought them by accident instead of the 3 ohm.

let me know. I have no use for them
 

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if you need 6ohm resistors, i bought them by accident instead of the 3 ohm.

let me know. I have no use for them
Considering I'm shipping everything from NY, it's cheaper to include them in the same shipment, thanks anyways :)
 

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front has 2 bulbs blinking so needs 3 ohm MOST OF THE TIME. i have heard of peeps needing 1.5 to get them to work but not my experience. i say 2 bulbs because it counts that little side marker bulb under the amber. Now on export headlights you also may have DRLs....so i cant be 100% sure of anything. all my headlight experience is US.

rear is single bulb blinking so 6 ohm.



I had some 06 WK tails that I had all LEDs on each side and it required ONE 3157 and one 3157 CK. IIRC CK was in the middle position. which is where your AMBER bulb lives. thats why i suggest the multi meter to confirm. I also had mine jumped so both bulbs blinked or brake.

I had some export tails once but dont recall anything about the bulbs as I didnt try LEDs.
Turns out all indicators are non-CK, but the break/tail light is CK. the socket is 8 pin going into the tail light housing (with five lines connected).

Lights ordered from V-led, lets see how long they take considering its a back order :)
 

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Thanks man, waiting for v-led to deliver, because im international they have to group everything before shipment, and some items are eta early May. Will update once they arrive .
 

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V-leds came in today, international shipment takes forever when 1 item is not in stock!! (and they forgot to send 4 bulbs but thats another story). Anyways, have done everything else except the indicators as I wanted to spend a bit of time considering I have to mount plates and install the resistors .. maybe over the weekend ..

Changed the Daylight running lamps, fogs, tail/brake lights. Couldn't change the reverse light as the export model is not a 921 (which is what I ordered), instead it is a the 3157 like the older 2005-2007 models .. the joy of owning an export model :)

here are some comparisons :

Left is V-LED 19 bulb 921 lights, right is OEM:



Right is the V-LED H10 Fog light, and left is OEM:



I will have to order the rear 3157 reverse lights separately, but will be busy enough with the indicators until then.
 

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lets see the ASS LOL

did you get all the rear bulbs LED?
Lol! ok ok will take some ass pics then :) no I just put the brakes lights in so far. Ordered wrong reverse lights as export model uses 3157 (could have checked first ..). indicators will give a go if I get some spare time tomorrow, otherwise when I am back from holiday in July.

Another question as you're the light guru :) I want to swap out the stock high beam 9005s with some higher rated HIDs. So far seen these from VLEDs (VHID) which have ballasts etc. I don't think I will need the Relay harness as its for high beam application, right?

Saw other members mention Morimoto. Alternatively XenonDepo Extreme HIDs, and Volt HID kits.

If I'm spending north of $150 for a pair of bulbs, ballasts etc, I would like to get it right :) The main purpose is to have a very strong beam that has a higher colour temp than the stock ones .. I would say 5k. I have the stock HID lows (which I presume is 4300k).

So, I understand why I would need a new set of bulbs and ballasts for this to work, but not sure if the High beams will need a relay harness (presume this is only needed if these bulbs where to be wired as low's or fogs - according to the info on the v-leds site?). And finally, I assume all three would be equally good .. I have bought everything from V-Leds and they have been very helpful, so loyal to the band if the VHIDs is the right way to go ..

Much appreciated!
 

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Ok scrapped the idea of HID for high beams, a lot of cash just to flash :)

Will spend the money on a decent compressor instead :)

Indicators will go in next week...
 

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agreed. the HID ballasts and bulbs dont like the flash ...........but some dont care LOL

the only way to add a different High Beam is to retrofit a projector in that spot. you could then remove the cut off blade so all you have is a full projector. but you still need another HID kit plus the projector LOL.



when you get time spell out each bulb you used ,,,,,for the next guy. I dont have a jeep anymore so once the both of us are gone......the knowledge will be gone LOL.
 

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Alright, indicators went in last week, pics to follow. Reverse lights on order, same 21 LED bulbs. Will post part numbers, but note this is for a WH and NOT a WK, so reverse lights are different.

I also 'need' to change the rear fog lights to LEDs too, and then all that is left which is not LED is the HIDs and the high beam .. I guess I can live with that :)

I like how the front indicators changing to LEDs get rid of that 'egg yolk' look in the headlights, as its all white and blends in with the glass.
 

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Was it easy to install the fog LEDS ?? I mean no resistors -right, you simply remove the OEM and instal the LED ??





QUOTE=EtherealPonx;844695]V-leds came in today, international shipment takes forever when 1 item is not in stock!! (and they forgot to send 4 bulbs but thats another story). Anyways, have done everything else except the indicators as I wanted to spend a bit of time considering I have to mount plates and install the resistors .. maybe over the weekend ..

Changed the Daylight running lamps, fogs, tail/brake lights. Couldn't change the reverse light as the export model is not a 921 (which is what I ordered), instead it is a the 3157 like the older 2005-2007 models .. the joy of owning an export model :)

here are some comparisons :

Left is V-LED 19 bulb 921 lights, right is OEM:



Right is the V-LED H10 Fog light, and left is OEM:



I will have to order the rear 3157 reverse lights separately, but will be busy enough with the indicators until then.[/QUOTE]
 

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Was it easy to install the fog LEDS ?? I mean no resistors -right, you simply remove the OEM and instal the LED ??
Hello Connie, thats correct. I didn't use any resistors, its a simple removal of the H10 bulb and putting in the new LED one. I'm very happy with the output of these, and the colour temperature matches the HID.
 
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