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Hi all, i've been keeping an eye out for an SRT for a while now (had my CRD since new in 2013) and had a couple of questions.

1) Tyres and wheels - I think they are a staggered setup. Can I fit/run standard 18s (or overland 20s if i have to) on a square setup? I am thinking about winter time and the need for taller tyre walls and some minor off road conditions

2) Do you really need to change the oil every 6 months? I know lots will say yes, but is anybody not doing so and is there a a valid reason not to?

3) I can see the same interior trim piece problems, dash wrinkling, hood bubbles etc, but are there any unique issues to the SRT that I wouldn't see on my CRD? The hemi tick and lifter/cam failure seems possible but is this widespread or i am picking up all those that have failed - and not the millions that havent?

Anything else I should be aware of before I start the long lobbying game with the wife?

Thanks v much
 

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Hi all, i've been keeping an eye out for an SRT for a while now (had my CRD since new in 2013) and had a couple of questions.

1) Tyres and wheels - I think they are a staggered setup. Can I fit/run standard 18s (or overland 20s if i have to) on a square setup? I am thinking about winter time and the need for taller tyre walls and some minor off road conditions

2) Do you really need to change the oil every 6 months? I know lots will say yes, but is anybody not doing so and is there a a valid reason not to?

3) I can see the same interior trim piece problems, dash wrinkling, hood bubbles etc, but are there any unique issues to the SRT that I wouldn't see on my CRD? The hemi tick and lifter/cam failure seems possible but is this widespread or i am picking up all those that have failed - and not the millions that havent?

Anything else I should be aware of before I start the long lobbying game with the wife?

Thanks v much
  • tires are not staggered
  • no you cannot run a smaller rim (it won’t clear the brembos front calliper)
  • if your not putting many miles on I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the full synthetic oil “degradation” in 6 months..
  • make sure any SRT your looking has had a brake job done. They eat brakes and OEM brake rotors and pads are $$$.
  • they eat tires also. Price out replacement tires and brakes to know what you’re getting into.
  • I personally would hold out for a 8 speed transmission
  • if looking at a 2018 make sure the screen delamination issue isn’t present (ask if screen has been replaced)
  • these are not off road Jeeps.. I wouldn’t go beyond a gravel road.
  • the carbon fibre trim lifting/cracking issue is real, 2019 went to a satin finish carbon fibre that seems to hold up better.
  • hemi tick is a thing but certainly not a guaranteed problem. (I’ve owned three hemis none have the issue)
 

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  • tires are not staggered
  • no you cannot run a smaller rim (it won’t clear the brembos front calliper)
  • if your not putting many miles on I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the full synthetic oil “degradation” in 6 months..
  • make sure any SRT your looking has had a brake job done. They eat brakes and OEM brake rotors and pads are $$$.
  • they eat tires also. Price out replacement tires and brakes to know what you’re getting into.
  • I personally would hold out for a 8 speed transmission
  • if looking at a 2018 make sure the screen delamination issue isn’t present (ask if screen has been replaced)
  • these are not off road Jeeps.. I wouldn’t go beyond a gravel road.
  • the carbon fibre trim lifting/cracking issue is real, 2019 went to a satin finish carbon fibre that seems to hold up better.
  • hemi tick is a thing but certainly not a guaranteed problem. (I’ve owned three hemis none have the issue)
Thanks for the above - very helpful.

Am I right in thinking the wheel off-sets are as per the others? Noted about the calipers - the 20inch overlands should fit however? I've got the larger brakes on the overland.

Interesting info on the various issues of the past. I'll be looking for a unicorn but there are a few more coming onto the market now with cost of living etc - people returning their toys.

Not planning on off roading this keep, but will be having pull onto verges and the occasional field - nothing more than I wouldn't do in the wife's 335d bmw!
 

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I can’t guarantee the 20” overland wheel will fit. I can’t say I’ve ever seen it done. The brembo brakes are larger than the HD brakes on the diesel / 5.7 hemi GCs.
offset is also different on the overland wheels.
i can’t quote numbers, but I’m running SRT wheels on my WL and they poke out about an inch vs the stock 21s on my Summit Reserve.
you might have clearance issues based on offset as well.
not all 20s will clear those beefy brakes. I think the difference in offset will not allow the overland rims to fit. There is less than half an inch clearance between the SRT wheels spokes to the calliper..
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The facelift bumpers & grills are available on the continent so can be sourced easily enough but you will need to budget for anoint 2k after shipping & painting etc. You will also then have to find a set of fog lights as they are not standard in the facelift bumper, then activate the drl in the headlights

wheels 100% will NOT fit unless you use a 30mm spacer. They are not staggered. Only facelift wh / wk1 ones were staggered in Europe



I’ve only noticed the Hemi tick on the earlier non vvt engines personally but I’ve read others with it.

The 8sp is a lot smoother but I personally prefer the sensation of the kick down of the earlier box BUT the 2014 onwards are so much better with the 8.4 Uconnect.

the carbon doesn’t seem to fail as much over here. I’m guessing it’s cos our temperature changes are no where near as extreme. Same goes for the leather dash

be aware the road tax will be a lot more than what you’re currently paying too unless you go for a 2017 onwards. Decent late ones are 37k upwards though. Also be warned an earlier black one doing the rounds on eBay was recently sold through copart (got a private plate on it), with suspension & engine issues but the person listing it hasn’t mentioned this. Also the cheap white ones had a respray!
 

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Also to clarify the spacers are needed on the 20s from non srt. 18 will not fit whatever you do unless you want to fit non brembo calipers lol.

for pricing, look at ebc stuff as massively less than brembo for similar quality. That said, I will give the same advice that I used to give when I was selling off my Evos, if they asked running costs then don’t buy it. Driven sensibly they ain’t too bad butas above, tyres, brakes, servicing etc is not something you want to cheap out on and if it’s a car you Want to enjoy, you ain’t gonna want to have in the back of your mind how much it’s costing you if you’re bothered about it. You could get 20-25 mpg but base it on 15 to not be disappointed or annoyed. Servicing & maintenance Plus wear & tear items, I would base it on 2k every 5-10k depending on how you drive. Buy an extended warranty too as issues with transfer cases, modules etc can add up too. 2016 onwards seem better built (look for the ones with the extra mics in the headlining for noise cancelling)
 

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Thanks Kryton. Get info as always.

I was think 2017 on account of the new gear selector setup, latest infotainment etc. I take your points on the interior defects - I've got a tiny bit of dash lift on my overland and had the obligatory bubble on bonnet since new. It doesn't seem to have grown at all and I got notice it now.

I'm happy to fork out for a bit of fun. I'll do my own servicing, including brakes, oils, fluids etc. I was hoping the xfer cases in the srt might be a bit stronger than the crd. Perhaps they are. I guess it's a component that may or may not fail like any other.

The wheels are purely as I wanted something a little chunkier for winter/wetter months. It'll most likely be our third car too so I doubt I'd be putting on more than 5k a year.

With fuel prices as they are now I tend to ignore them - I've come to terms the current price gouging is not something I can control. At least (in my part of the world) petrol is currently 30p/ l cheaper than diesel! That might make me a little happier filling up more often!
 

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ok cool, certainly helps that you can do the work yourself. That sort of mileage makes it easier to suck up the costs anyway. These should only run on super which is still e5 too so shouldn't matter if parked up for a few weeks at a time. Yeah the 2014-17 selector sucks. I still hate mine lol. Shame UK didn't get the second facelift like you mentioned above on srt (other than trackhawk). Its ok if you've got 75k burning a hole in your pocket though! The carplay can be retrofitted though
 

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At least the current setup is a little more subtle. The wife might not be so hard to win over if it doesn't look too brutish - it's gonna be a battle as it is.

I quite look forward to fiddling with a v8. I'm also happy there isn't ql which although mines currently behaving, it's always at the back of my mind.

I'll be extremely thorough looking over any purchase. I hate dealing with garages and haven't needed to for years. Maybe things have changed but when I bought my jeep, the 'jeep specialist', in a jeep garage, didn't have a clue. The last jeep salesman I spoke to couldn't be more disinterested. It was shocking really. Any who, I've got food for thought...
 
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