We're needing an update on the current oil filter assembly/adapter leak which pertains to either a crack or break in the assembly or that the system can not withstand a large amount of pressure thus blowing dislodging one of all of the o-rings. According to your last TSBS noticed, you've inform dealerships to simply replace the failing old o-rings with a revised version. We need verification as to what the current reversion of these o-rings are. Contacts have suggested that there are 3 orange rings or is the entire set made of this orange material. What is the orange o-rings made of? Currently there's a few at several jeep & dodge forums speculating to if the revised o-ring replacement is the correct way to handle this issue.
A total re-modification of the oil filter assembly/adapter would be necessary or the system will continue to fail again within 3 years. Within our forums, several members have suggested why the o-rings continue to fail on this assembly. The current system was not designed to handle a large pressurized amount of oil flow at one time. Is this true and what type of pressure can the current oil filter assembler withstand or is suppose to withstand? This issues occurs when the driver stomps on the gas in order to accelerate into traffic thus blowing one of all of the exit o-rings.
Members have suggested in the past that this issue is related to over tightening of the oil filter cap which may not be the case. In this instance we're discussing the possibility of redesigning & relocating the oil filter assembly and reverting back to the old style of oil filter canister. It is possible to tab the exit/inlet holes forward of the engine block as to allow for threaded fittings and tubing to run through top of the block, out the rear of the block there the header, down to one side, then incorporating a secured location/mount for a canister oil filter?
Lastly, Our dealership has informed us, that they have personally ordered 15 of these oil filter assemblies and that there is a national back order of more than 5,000 units. Our jeep is just one of those with this oil filter assemble leak and it's imperative that Jeep look into this issue, correct the issue and get these newly revised assemblies back to dealership ASAP. We also need to know the wait time on either the revised o-ring kit as well as when one can expect to see the revised oil filter assembly.
Thank you for posting this. I have a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica, 3.6L with 65K and this was diagnosed after a long trip over the weekend. I've been through the same thing as you with trying to locate the part, first through the garage where it was diagnosed, then online where several orders were cancelled because they can't give a date and finally at the dealership where they told the same thing, "20 days out at least."According to carcomplaints.com & carproblemzoo.com and many online searches or forums relating to the failure of the Oil Filter Assembly (OFA), Jeep has discontinued the manufacturing of the Oil Filter Assembly (OFA) and may be opting for a redesign. What does this mean? It means that at some point within your Dodge or Jeep's history, the current 3.6L/3.2L OFA is going to fail and you're going to be left with oil spewing out the back of your engine, down onto your transmission and onto your exhaust system.
Some have said that this "could" catch fire as an end result. But let's clear the air. According to our Diesel expect, the only way oil can catch fire is if it under extreme pressure & heat. as this would not be the case under the jeep while driving etc. The worse that can happen is the exhaust will smoke.
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With this part being discontinued, it's our belief that jeep may be redesigning this cooler assembly.
According to another post on the forum, this person is claiming that the oil is bypassing the oil filter entirely. our issues is not related to the oil filter but the oil cooler. So our oil is passing through the filter, but is not passing through the oil cooler. But without removing the intake manifold, The dealership can not verify what or how the oil is leaking other than seeing other jeeps with this same issue. According to jeep, this is not a dangerous or hazardous enough issue to warrant a recall.
You will need to take precautions to routinely degrease and wash this oil back flow off these components and maintain your oil level because there's no replacement on the market. Jeep themselves has known of this issue since 2014 and has not issued any recalls. It is also important to anyone performing your oil change on any of the 3.6L engines, DO NOT overtighten the oil cap as this can break the housing/assembly & seals on the assembly thus causing the leak.
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Oil Filter Assembly (OFA)
So if you start seeing an oil leak like this on the engine/transmission, One might think it's the rear main seal. Have your jeep diagnosed as to verify if it's your OFA and not the rear main seal. As of one week ago, Our 2017 jeep Wrangler with 72K miles was diagnosed with a failing OFA without any ETA on when the replacement part will arrive. This failing part effects ALL Dodge & Jeep Models with either the 3.2L or the 3.6L Pentastar Engines.
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Oil leak that looks like a rear main seal failure
I've been doing some cross-referencing of this part on several retailer's parts sites. None of these sites are listing this oil filter assembly or list the assembly as being on back order. The only sites that list this part as being available is eBay & Amazon. We're hoping to hold on any panic buying in order to have the dealership install this part as they will offer a lifetime warranty. Otherwise you can take your chances with using aftermarket parts or buying from sites like Amazon or eBay.
I've also contacted Jeepcares in another forum as well as on twitter and within their Jeepcares web site to see what can be done about this issue. if you're jeep is going through this same issue, then you need to either post you failure date on carcompleints.com or other sites and let others know this is unacceptable. We need this part redesigned and soon.
If your Dodge, Jeep or any other vehicle with the 3.2L or 3.6L engine has this leaking Oil filter assembly, send a contact to @JeepCares here:
The more experienced guy at the dealership called me this morning and said he's working a deal to get the OFA this afternoon. We will see if he can work some magic. I'm monitoring the oil level every time I use it until the issues is resolved. Thank you for the visuals, they were very helpful!@Matthew O
Thank matt for checking in.. Although I've done some research on this and other forum have reported the same issue, I wanted to make it clear that oil filter assembly/adapter is common on the 3.2L and 3.6L engines. However I have just learn that this same 'type" of assemble is also on the Hemi engine as well as the 2.0L/3.0L/3.6L JL & JT engines which all have some form of newly designed above the block oil filter assembly. So this is a total Jeep/Dodge etc engine failure on all aspects. I've double cross referenced all types of oil filter assemblies from the 3.2L moving up to the 3.6L. Just so others know that this also applies to the 2.0L (gas) & 3.0L (diesel) engines. So if you think you're 2020/2021 jeep/dodge will not be effected by this issue, you'd be dead wrong.
The issue is that most will say that the weakest spot to this design is the lowest spot below the oil filter container tube. However, my discovery shows this is only one small part of these weakest link. The units o-rings will blow out or dislodge from their seated positions thus causing an oil leak. As I posted in other forums, this dislodging of the o-rings occurs when one stomps on the gas as to accelerate into traffic which sends a massive amount of oil and pressure to the units o-rings. I've registered with several sites this past week looking for any updates. at that time, these sites did have dates. But checking this morning.. those dates have been removed and in big red letters (Discontinued) or (Not Available).
Sorry for the long winded comment.. but to answer your question, The issue is either you have a cracked unit or is it just the o-rings has bene dislodged.. if oil is getting to the oil filter you're fine to drive the vehicle. but it would require you to constantly maintain the oil level. it actually looks worse because the oil is basically flowing or back flowing from the oil cooler, that's if it's entering into the oil filter and not just leaking out from the unit. (Basically this failure pushing the spent oil out the oil filter assembly top of the engine which doesn't return back to the oil pan) This is why every time I check our oil level the oil is clean looking and not burnt.
We've bene driving the jeep for 2 weeks now with this leak and although it's not leaking like a sieve.. we get a gush of massive oil all over the rear of the engine, transmission and down onto the exhaust cross pipe. This is because the oil collects between the engine heads slowly fills up the when you hit a bump or turn a sharp corner the oil in the valley spills out onto the rear of the engine down onto the trans etc. I recommended that you do not take long trips and do not go off roading. If you decide to drive the jeep with this oil leak, you're going to have to baby it. take back roads instead of major highway speeds etc.
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Borrowed this image from another jeeper who's been talking to us about the same issue. He did the repair himself but with a lessor or outdated unit.
The bad part all this, there's NO ETA on when this part will arrive and may are getting rid of their jeep/dodge etc and writing complaints like you & I have and jeep isn't or hasn't done anything about this. So if you happen to take your Dodge/Jeep to the dealership and they remove the intake manifold, see the leak and know this part is on national back order, you're screwed because they aren't going to reinstall these parts for free and may ask that you don't drive the jeep till the part arrives which could be months/years.
As I said in my #48 comment, the fellow not knowing, took the jeep in and the dealership completely disassembled his engine, left him hanging and he's going to get rid of the jeep all because either your lube center over tightened your oil cap or you've stomped on the gas (like I did) and blew the o-rings. The way we look at it, we've going to drive this jeep till jeep recalls this part or the engine blows. Not that we're trying to make the engine blow. but as you said it is our only vehicle and the only vehicle I can fit and sit in comfortably.
However, There is a small glimmer of hope. I've send an email to some of those engineers we've work with over these last 20 years. I'm calling all engineers to band together and create a new better oil filter design seeing that jeep has not given me/us any idea when this part will be back on the market. Current I'm waiting to hear back from those engineers to see if any of them have the time to dissemble/analyze the current oil filter assembly. 68365931AB Building a better mouse trap sort of speak. Only thing I can say now, is pray that those engineers I sent email to, reply favorable and we can get those 3D printers working on the creations of a new redesigned assembly. Only thing I can say now, is pray that those engineers I sent email to, reply favorable and we can get a 3D printed working on the creations of a new redesigned assembly.
End quote."Your dealership has changed management, Terminated several service technicians and relocated your service advisor to a new dealership and the part for your jeep was never ordered"
It's called the throttle calibration procedure. Some say it's just a placebo effect, others insist it actually works. On my 2018 GC, there's no key to insert so just tap the start button twice to put it in Run mode. Do not actually start the engine.The work around, I was informed by one of the forum members that there is simple trick that can return the jeep to a factory setting or that like it was the last time you drove it feeling. Place the key in the ignition, turn the key twice but do not start the vehicle. Press the gas once all the way to the floor and release. then turn off the key. wait a few mins, then start your engine. Once I did the trick, I drove around the block, the jeep feels like it's old self again. But I'm still seeing some oil on or about the rear of the engine, transmission and exhaust system.