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Have a new '19 JGC and curious what the recommended mileage is for first service. Bought it from an out of state dealer and forgot to ask when I picked it up. From what I can see the Mopar site says 10,000 miles, that just seems kind of high for a first service.
 

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it’s 1yr or 10k, whichever comes first. In my experience, they do a lot of the service checks during oil changes and they told me I didn’t need to bring it in for 10k service. Not sure if I was lied to but that is what I was told from my dealer.
 

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I believe synthetic oil is best and don't think my 2014 GC V8 came with that (possibly had semi-synthetic) so chose to bring it in for an oil change to full synthetic at 3,000 miles. I know most manufacturers are now recommending 1 year or 10K mile oil changes so probably come new with full synthetic but now I know that's what I have.
 

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Not sure how many miles were on the vehicle when you picked it up, but i had first oil change done around 1,500 miles. I got my jeep with 7 miles, and followed the engine break-in procedure found in the manual. My reasoning behind the early service was to get any residual casting material out of the engine. I plan on keeping the vehicle for 10+years so being extra cautions was worth it in my case. In your case, if you are leasing, or don't keep vehicles for long time, a longer wait may be okay. I'd still probably get it changed around 5k though.
 

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I would do it when the EVIC tells you to. It will factor in many parameters, not just time and mileage.
 

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Did my first at 1000 as it was a left over that had been sitting on lot for 6 months. After that every 5k. Just had my 205000 oil change. Does not use any oil between changes. Use semi-syn.
 

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Great to hear from someone that's gotten over 200K miles on their JK. Curious about which engine and options such as QuadraLift , what your major repairs have been and whether you've had to do some more than once such as motor mounts, radiator, front control arms etc.
 

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Here is my maint sheet for the GC. (wk2 not JK). No current issues, other than occasional suspension warning when cold below 10 degrees as well as idler pulley whine at same temps.
 

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I knew that, don't know why I said JK!?? I see you have MaxCare, wish I did. Thanks for the list of repairs.
 

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Had a chance to look closer at the list of maintenance/repairs and noticed it amazingly doesn't include most of the issues frequently found in forum threads for the WK2. Can you provide more info such as 4X2 or 4X4?, engine?packages and options? Thanks
 

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I have the stock 3.6 Pentastar 4x4 Overland, meaning all standard Overland items. It doesn't have the tech package or CD player. This was a left over (build 6/2014) 2014 purchased 4/2015. I think it had about 70 miles on it, most likely from test drives. I came from 08 ML320 CDI, which had its own list of issues. My Jeep does have some of the issues such as shitty shifting, bump from 2-1 when slowing, bump 8-7 when coasting. I just didnt have the time or patience to keep going back and forth to dealer, and learned to live with it. The one issue, cyl misfire, has been the most frustrating, and I think is actually what caused the catalytic converter to fail twice. If I am accelerating, say up a long grade and really get into it and hold to redline I will get CEL flashing, then some stumbling. Dealer replaced head at 60K but issue remained. Has only happened occasionally when towing when I get into it to pass someone, so I do my best to avoid that scenario. Other than that the quirkiness of NAV since update (screen goes to Navigation initializing), Creaking rear spoiler in the sun as it expands, whiney idler pulley when cold, (tsb out there for this), blower motor noisy (warr), oil filter housing (warr). Air suspension as I mentioned gives the error when extremely cold. Maxcare was helpful when the dealer replaced the evaporator, then ended up replacing the condenser. I think it was a bad diagostic on the dealers part and condenser was the issue in the first place. The big item I will be forever grateful was the dash replacement. I had the leather delaminting leather even before the TSB came out. Jeep Cares stepped in and I was able to get the dash replaced, albeit the dealer had the car for almost a month due to first dash shipped was damaged.

Overall the Jeep is holding up well, still rides good and is comfortable for me. I average between 3-5K miles per month, so it doesnt get much downtime. Daily RT commute is 94 miles 90% is highway driving which leads to longevity. My last highmiler was a 2000 Passat 1.8T gasser which got to 401K (original clutch and turbo) before an encounter with black ice. So I expect nothing short of that with the Jeep based on how she runs now.

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A bit larger cargo capacity (like Durango)
Tech Package (have eyesight on my Subie and love it)
Quadra Drive II (limited slip rear would help in winter or off-road)
Diesel that doesn't add 5K to sticker price (Mercedes was only 1500 difference)
Bring back Lifetime MAXCARE

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I would open up your Owner's Manual (OM) and review the maintenance schedule and decide on what is needed if it worth bringing it in for the 1yr/10k mile servicing. I can easily imagine anything on a 1yr/10k mile servicing being done during an oil change and thus it being unnecessary.....

Pulling the 1st oil change early, totally seeing that being a good thing to do.... ...there are assembly lubes, and wear particles and contaminates that get into the oil from a brand new engine, from the build process and the break-in.....

You didn't say you were going to do every oil change at a 3k mile interval, but if you were thinking that, I think its a waste, you have an algorithm running in the PCM that is tracking engine usage and recommended an oil change based off that usage..... ....if you use full synthetic oil when the tracker says to change the oil, you're doing more than enough overkill on the maintenance to keep the engine lasting for a long time.....

The change the oil every 3k mi comes from the 50's and 60's when engine oil was not nearly as good, nor the engines nearly as clean burning and well sealed to keep the oil from being contaminated..... ....the manufacturers are recommending oil changes based off what they saw in their thorough test and development as too when the oil becomes broken down enough or contaminated enough to need to be changed..... ....and the usage of the motor does change that, which you have a tracker built in to track that usage and recommend oil changes earlier if the usage is severe enough or lighter if the usage is mild enough.....

I do a lot of stop and go relatively short commutes with my vehicle, I've noticed the tracker goes off 2-3k miles earlier than recommended in the book.... ...when I've made several long highway trips over the summer within one oil change the tracker went off later than the recommended 7500 mi oil change for my 2011.....
 

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I also have a 2014 Overland that I bought new and now with 77K miles. It has the V8, Off Road II, tow package, QuadraDrive II, QuadraLift and Heavy Duty cooling. Always serviced at the dealer I purchased it from and so far individual repairs costing over $700 include motor mounts (covered under warranty), radiator ($800), all 4 (upper and lower) control arms ($3100) and steering rack ($2100). Also replaced windshield washer motor ($300), both nozzles (N/C), battery, both Xenon headlight bulbs, one leaking AC line and one leaking QuadraLift line. Still on the original brake rotors and pads and no separation on the leather dash. Love the Jeep and it runs and drives great but a bit concerned about the frequency of reported failures of the PS and water pumps, lifters that stick and flatten the cam, QuadraLift pump, transfer case motor etc.
 

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Wow, what I've done myself, motor mounts for $75, Radiator for $150 (upgraded to the HD Radiator), upper control arms for $130, if I did the lower, probably $300 (plus the cost of an alignment, if marking the original adjustments didn't work), and washer motor for $18 (granted another vehicle, but it was a Chrysler and has the washer motor equally buried and hidden).....

I did use top quality aftermarket brands (e.g. Moog) and not Mopar, so you can double almost triple the price of parts if you insist on only original OEM parts.....

I know labor is expensive, but wow, a good independent shop might charge less, but finding a good trustworthy independent shop is almost as bad as finding a good trustworthy DJR Dealership Service Department.....
 

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Mongo, no doubt about it, the dealer charges a premium for both parts and labor. And while I'm pretty good mechanically I'm willing to pay up for the convenience and peace of mind that the work will be done quickly, correctly and backed by a reputable dealer that has the diagnostic tools and vehicle specific experience. Yes, there are independent mechanics that are capable at lower hourly rates and having the option of superior aftermarket parts is a plus i.e. polyurethane bushings vs. OEM rubber. That said I have also read of independent shops over tightening the oil plug, using generic and potentially incompatible antifreeze, brake and power steering fluids. And the dealer I go to is large enough to have trained specialists for such items as QuadraLift, can see the vehicle history of what's been done and that I've been a loyal customer. Who knows, maybe that still means something. :unsure:
 

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I swung by the dealership where I plan to have it serviced and they told me to bring it in when the car says I need to change the oil, lol. Said the newer cars are pretty smart and take into account time/mileage/driving style to determine oil life.
 

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That said I have also read of independent shops over tightening the oil plug, using generic and potentially incompatible antifreeze, brake and power steering fluids.
I've read of Dealerships doing the exact same thing, as well as recommended unneeded service and giving service advice in direct contradiction of the Manufacturer's guidelines, even in contradiction of recent TSB's stating not to perform certain servicing, it is recommended against.

Like the Dealer Service Departments that buy the BG Transmission Flush Machines and keep recommending transmission flushes to customers, despite a TSB from Chrysler stating not to flush their transmissions.....

Like I said, finding a good independent shop is as just about as hard as finding a good DJR Dealership Service Department it seems now-a-days.....
 
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