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Good afternoon,

I orignially placed this in the "build" thread, but that may have been the wrong place.

I'm a long time reader, first time poster. I've noticed the accuracy of Milous on other Jeep forums, so thought I'd venture a question or three:

1. Why does the new 3.0 liter diesel negate the ability to select the Blu Ray? I noticed I couldn't build on Jeep.com and the forum posting here says that the Blue Ray is incompatible with the diesel package as well...guess not a error on the jeep site then. Any thoughts?

2. I'm one of the few to take a new Overland equipped with the ORAII package and actually go offroad. I won't take it in on the Rubicon Trail I just did last summer with my stock Rubicon, but other trails seem fine (like Moab) where less live axle articulation is not a huge issue. So why can't I order tow hooks for the rear? I don't need a towing package, I want to yank folks out of ditches here in the winter or off a high center issue. I notice that the new Trailhawk II DOES have these...why can't an Overland? I'd like to get as much "factory" versus aftermarket that I can...

3. The Trailhawk II looks GREAT with the diesel for torque, large tires, great Mopar rock rails (I used these as a replacement for the ones that came with the Wrangler Rubicon, and they are great) and (I assume) electronic slip "lockers". Any news on whether a full size tire is included, or if the diesel urea tank takes up too much space? And when we could order the new Trailhawk? Wish we had other color choices though...I'm more interested in the trail capabilities than stunning the passerby with garish colors...:)

I would buy that concept vehicle in a heartbeat...please please please release it as fast as you did the last Trailhawk. I would gladly trade in my 2012 Rubicon and 2013 Overland for it. :)

Thanks!
 

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The Trailhawk at Moab was a concept vehicle...it may or may not reflect something that might become "real" later.

The video option is delayed for production until July at the present time. But it does appear to not be available with the 22P (CRD) package according to the ordering information thread in the stickies above. I don't recall a reason every given for that.

Relative to the rear tow hook, the Overland (or any other model) with the towing setup doesn't have the "regular" tow hook installed as it would interfere with the rest of the setup. But you can get a 2" receiver mounted tow hook from many sources for not much money to allow for that need off-road.
 

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Thank you, appreciate the note.

Understand that the Trailhawk II is concept currently, but was pleased how fast the other Trailhawk came out, though it was lacking in a lot of off-road areas. Slap a rockrail and Silent Wrangler tires on an Overland with ORA II and you have a better vehicle than the current Trailhawk... because you get a Quadra Drive with limited slip that the Trailhawk and its Quadra Trac don't give.

But this year's Trailhawk is just about perfect with larger tires that give better clearance, the right transmission, awesome torque with the diesel (and fuel economy) AND you get factory tow hooks in the rear where they are needed. I really hope this stays just the way it is (maybe with toned down colors)! Doesn't hurt to hope.

I will have to purchase a hitch receiver otherwise, something I've been avoiding on my current Overland. I've even pulled folks up a hill in reverse to use the factory front tow hooks instead...

Hope that the creature comforts like the Blu Ray will become available on the CRD, but I'll go diesel regardless for all that it offers in torque.

Thanks again for the reply, and here's to hoping for a really great lineup in 2014!
 

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The creature comforts of the Overland is what the Trailhawk was lacking. The 5.7 contained the QDII system along with the QL system. Not sure what more you want.

The reason I didn't get the Trailhawk? As I said, it was lacking the Overland panache - yeah, I like that in an offroader! LOL

I ended up holding off on my purchase, and I'm hoping the Trailhawk II steps it up with the interior. It surely has on the outside - I have to believe a good large portion of the concept will carry over. At least I'll believe it until proven otherwise.
 

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The creature comforts of the Overland is what the Trailhawk was lacking. The 5.7 contained the QDII system along with the QL system. Not sure what more you want.

The reason I didn't get the Trailhawk? As I said, it was lacking the Overland panache - yeah, I like that in an offroader! LOL

I ended up holding off on my purchase, and I'm hoping the Trailhawk II steps it up with the interior. It surely has on the outside - I have to believe a good large portion of the concept will carry over. At least I'll believe it until proven otherwise.
I agree...it is why I picked the Overland with ORA II and a Hemi last year. And slapped on the same Silent Armor tires. I didn't get around to the rockrails yet for the Overland (bought them but replaced the standard Rubicon rock rails instead). The Quadra Drive on the Overland is far superior to what came on the first Trailhawk.

But all that is fixed with the current Trailhawk II...and agree that I also want to maintain the creature comforts and panache of the Overland. Here's to hoping!
 

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I agree...it is why I picked the Overland with ORA II and a Hemi last year. And slapped on the same Silent Armor tires. I didn't get around to the rockrails yet for the Overland (bought them but replaced the standard Rubicon rock rails instead). The Quadra Drive on the Overland is far superior to what came on the first Trailhawk.

But all that is fixed with the current Trailhawk II...and agree that I also want to maintain the creature comforts and panache of the Overland. Here's to hoping!
I think you missed my point, which was to say that the 4X4 system was the same for both 2013 V8 Overland ORA II and Trailhawks. There was NO difference.
 

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Interesting as I looked specifically for that and saw Quadra Trac, not Quadra Drive for the transmissions released last October on the Limited Trailhawk. Perhaps they offered Quadra Drive later? Though the problem with most limited editions is that you have no customization opportunity.

So, yes, I guess I did miss your point as that was and is news to me.
 

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And...back on topic as the thread goes sideways.

Any idea why the CRD package can't have a Blu Ray?

Any idea if a full size spare is available on CRD models with some extra space taken up with the Urea tank?

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And...back on topic as the thread goes sideways.

Any idea why the CRD package can't have a Blu Ray?

Any idea if a full size spare is available on CRD models with some extra space taken up with the Urea tank?

Thanks,
I've read somewhere that a full sized spare is with the CRD however in this case with the 35s (still not known if that's what will be released) I don't think that will fit.

Also, the blu ray dealio if not an option you can easily just get an aftermarket for MUCH less $$ and just hang it over the seat back.

We'll know more when their final plans come out- trust the system of Jeep Garage.
 

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Since it took some sawsall work to get the 35s to fit, I highly doubt the TH2 will get the bigger tires.
 

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Also, it's untested whether or not the drivetrain is right for those wheels/tires
 

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Also, it's untested whether or not the drivetrain is right for those wheels/tires
The Hemi with 3.09 gears and 35's would be a nightmare! 3.45's might be ok with the diesel, but I'd want no less than 4.10's with the Hemi.
 
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