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I have a question on a 2012 Summit.

I know here in the US all Summits come with black olive ash real wood steering wheels and related wood trim on the dash and door panels.

Or so I thought..... I just had a dealer send me a typical (not Actual) 2012 window sticker for the specific Summit I'm looking to buy.

Under the Summit edition 24R option package (MSRP $3600.00) it lists;

OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
Customer Preferred Package 24R $ 3,600
Summit Edition Group
20-Inch x 8.0-Inch Bright Polished
Aluminum Wheels
Black Olive Ash Applique
Bright Grille and Fog Lamp Bezels
Blind Spot Monitoring and Rear Cross
Path Detection
Adaptive Speed Control
Forward Collision Warning
5.7-Liter V8 VVT Engine with Fuel Saver
Technology
$ 2,195
220-Amp Alternator
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Heavy Duty
Brakes
Dual Bright Rear Exhaust Tips
Electronic Limited-Slip Rear Differential
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
Quadra-Drive II 4WD System
Trailer Tow Group IV


Does that mean Black Olive Ash "wood" is an "applique" not real wood?

I'm sure the steering wheel is real wood but what about the dash and door "wood" trim" ?
Is this something new or different from the 2011 Overland Summits?


 

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No, the Overland and Summit Overland have real wood trim.
 

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This is posted on Milous's site for 2011 Summits;




2011 Summit Edition Key features:
  • 20" Bright Polished Aluminum Wheels
  • Advance Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control
  • Chrome grille and fog lamp bezels
  • New Black Olive Ash Burl real wood trim
  • New Saddle upper interior trim color
  • New Saddle Nappa leather heated and ventilated seats with accent piping
  • Berber floor mats with accent binding
  • Premium Navigation Radio w/ Sensor-assisted GPS, Voice Command and SIRIUS Traffic (model RHR 730N)*
  • Quadra-Lift Air Suspension (4WD models)
  • Quadra-Drive (4WD models with Hemi)
  • Rugged Brown exterior color (exclusive to Summit Edition), also available in Mineral Gray, White Gold and Black
  • Trail Tow Group IV (Standard on 4WD models)
Thats not what the typical 2012 window sticker states;

Black Olive Ash Applique

This doesn't sound like real wood to me! WTF?? Or is it a real wood veneer? Not a solid piece of Ash?
 

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No manufacturer uses "a chunk of wood" for their trim applications. Typically in a "real wood" situation, a thin veneer is bonded to a piece of aluminum or composite. Why??? No splintering in an accident. Seriously.
 

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No manufacturer uses "a chunk of wood" for their trim applications. Typically in a "real wood" situation, a thin veneer is bonded to a piece of aluminum or composite. Why??? No splintering in an accident. Seriously.
Not always true because our range rover supercharged had real solid wood for the dash trim. Most are thin veneers because it is flexible and can be shaped easily for manufacturing costs and efficiency.
 

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It does not. I had one of those too. If you chose to take apart the trim, you would see it is a laminate. Again, it IS real wood, but very, very thin. Just enough to replicate the "depth" only real wood can provide.
MB actually developed the process back in the 70's.
 

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It does not. I had one of those too. If you chose to take apart the trim, you would see it is a laminate. Again, it IS real wood, but very, very thin. Just enough to replicate the "depth" only real wood can provide.
MB actually developed the process back in the 70's.
So you had the late generation range rover supercharged and verified that it wasn't solid wood? You can even see the two pieces where they join by adhesive. So I call bs.
 

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Call it what you want...then use your head...think of the liability a manufacturer would incur if you got a piece of splintered wood in your eye upon impact as a result of your real wood trim...
Would you like the VIN# of the RR? Gawd knows it appeared on enough RO's...
 

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We are talking about a 100K vehicle leather everywhere. Cost cutting is not on the top of the list.
 

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So you had the late generation range rover supercharged and verified that it wasn't solid wood? You can even see the two pieces where they join by adhesive. So I call bs.
I tend to agree. My 2008 Range Rover Sport claimed to have "real wood" on the counsel and doors. As it turned out, it was vaneered, which is absolutely fine with me.

It's just like a high quality desk set for your office. Even the best desk sets are vaneered. They look great and are fully functional. The cost of building a full wooden desk, credenza, and hutch would be significantly higher than the $4,000.00 - $5,000.00 you pay now for a good desk set.
 

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solid wood would bow and crack etc. on the interior of a vehicle...think about it. Temp changes etc.
 

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Ive seen a Bentley Conti GT in a shop after an accident, they were clearly veneers. Everybody uses veneers. Just because there isnt a solid piece of timber in your dash doesnt make it cheap. Some wood veneers are extremeley expensive and in many places their export is tightly controlled (Brazil and India for example.L
 

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The use veneer so they can use the highest quality thin wood. Would be very expensive to use solid wood.

Rolls Royce uses very fine veneer, as also does Lexus on their vehicles.

The safety factor is very real to these manufacturers, so the backing of the veneer is designed to not splinter upon impact.
 

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OK, I admit that I was wrong, the range rovers use a wood veneer. Our RR supercharged had the cherry wood option and they just looked so0 real with the satin coating on top not a polished lacquer finish, that I thought they were real this whole time.

here is an example of what I was talking about, nonetheless a veneer...
 

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OK, I admit that I was wrong, the range rovers use a wood veneer. Our RR supercharged had the cherry wood option and they just looked so0 real with the satin coating on top not a polished lacquer finish, that I thought they were real this whole time.

here is an example of what I was talking about, nonetheless a veneer...
Veneer or not, I'd trade that piece in for a steering wheel. :lol:
 
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