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Hi All,

New to Jeep... forgive the ignorant questions.

I'm trying to decide between a diesel Overland or Summit. I was going to grab the Summit, but just figured out that I can't get the Off-Road package with it... Seems like an Overland with the Off-Road and other packages almost comes out to the price of a Summit when you add everything up.

Thoughts on not having the front tow hooks and skid plates? i figured the dealer wouldn't mind taking my 20" wheels and swapping them for 18"s. I basically only off-road on sand for surf fishing. Otherwise the nicer interior and stereo are rather attractive on the Summit. Is there something else I'm missing here?

Why would Jeep not offer the Off-Road package on all the models???

Thanks for the advice.
 

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I thought those models came with tow hooks without off road package (I have base Overland which has chrome tow hooks). Skid plates more useful for rock crawling than beach? JGC even without OR package is still very capable off road vehicle.
 

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Jeep is tiring to separate the to models, targeting outdoor adventure clientèle with the overland and luxury clientèle with the summit. I don't agree with there marketing but it is what it is.I to mostly do my off roading on the beach. However I wanted the tow hooks and under body protection. For sure the summit will do fine on the beach you can always add the tow hooks (not a bad idea to have front recovery points). Driving in NYC you may regret not having skid plates, even doing a mall crawl. for me the 18' wheels were a must. Good luck you can't go wrong with either one. I just picked mine up and i love it. BTW I happen to know Manhattan Jeep has a sweet true blue overland hemi, A.T. ORA2 CD player in stock. They ordered it for me but I never asked for the CD player.
 

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you can have the skid plates installed on the summit, but not the front hooks unless you cut the fascia grille where they go... 18" can also be installed!

if you really want/need the hooks and 18" I think the overland+ora2 is an easier option, getting that on the summit would cost much more... maybe you can hava a limited customer taking your wheels for swap, you put the skid plates and forget about the tow hooks then summit would be a good option!
 

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Welcome! Beach driving is the majority of offroading I do as well, I have had zero problems with sand driving on my 20s and QTII but feel that recovery points are a must in the event that you encounter a problem. I installed a recovery shackle in my hitch receiver for rear coverage as well. What beach do you fish off of?
 

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NYC surf fishermen, we need to meet up wet the lines / burn some meat!
 

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How do you like Manhattan Jeep? I've heard mixed things about them. I'm actually looking into the DC group buy at the moment since they seem to have an excellent price going on.

Jeep is tiring to separate the to models, targeting outdoor adventure clientèle with the overland and luxury clientèle with the summit. I don't agree with there marketing but it is what it is.I to mostly do my off roading on the beach. However I wanted the tow hooks and under body protection. For sure the summit will do fine on the beach you can always add the tow hooks (not a bad idea to have front recovery points). Driving in NYC you may regret not having skid plates, even doing a mall crawl. for me the 18' wheels were a must. Good luck you can't go wrong with either one. I just picked mine up and i love it. BTW I happen to know Manhattan Jeep has a sweet true blue overland hemi, A.T. ORA2 CD player in stock. They ordered it for me but I never asked for the CD player.
 

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I usually go out on Sore Thumb/Democrat Point. But anywhere in the area where they're biting is fair game.

Do you air down your 20s?
I do, I have larger than stock 20" tires and air down to 18psi but could easily do 20 or a bit higher.
 

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How do you like Manhattan Jeep? I've heard mixed things about them. I'm actually looking into the DC group buy at the moment since they seem to have an excellent price going on.
I can speak about them, since I got my 2013 E group in April. Pretty smooth operation. They had it in the lot and I got basically 21% off sticker (with lifetime oil changes and the cover for the trunk area). The service dept is fine and easy to get to on the west side highway.

Other than that, just your average car dealer.
 

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I can speak about them, since I got my 2013 E group in April. Pretty smooth operation. They had it in the lot and I got basically 21% off sticker (with lifetime oil changes and the cover for the trunk area). The service dept is fine and easy to get to on the west side highway.
+1 I have been using there service department since 2005, never had a problem. I got a decent price I can live with on my 14. I don't think you can beat the Wash. group buy, but you never know.
 

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I don't think a lack of skid plates is a problem for beach driving.
However tow hooks (recovery points) are a must in my opinion...
20 inch rims are no problem, I always air down to 20psi and have gotten through some really dry and soft sand without issue.
 
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