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Recently (past 2-3 months) I've had a terrible steering wheel shake while driving. I can feel it start around 15-25 mph, but once I get up to around 55-65 my passenger side seat starts to shake as well as my steering wheel. Around 78-82 mph it kind of smooths out weirdly. I can't tell if it's a bad wheel bearing, shocks/strut, or something else. I don't hear any whining noise at low speeds, probably because of my Corsa exhaust, but it's gotten to the point where I cant even bear driving my truck to work and back because it's so frustrating to drive with. I did get a new set of 4 OEM 20" WK2 rims and tires installed, balanced and aligned, and it still does it although it's a tiny bit better.

My Jeep is a 2011 WK2 Limited 4x4 with 128,xxx miles on it. Traditional suspension so no QL. We also have a 2015 JGC Overland with the QL and this has never happened before.

Any insight or thoughts are much appreciated!
 

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Recently (past 2-3 months) I've had a terrible steering wheel shake while driving. I can feel it start around 15-25 mph, but once I get up to around 55-65 my passenger side seat starts to shake as well as my steering wheel. Around 78-82 mph it kind of smooths out weirdly. I can't tell if it's a bad wheel bearing, shocks/strut, or something else. I don't hear any whining noise at low speeds, probably because of my Corsa exhaust, but it's gotten to the point where I cant even bear driving my truck to work and back because it's so frustrating to drive with. I did get a new set of 4 OEM 20" WK2 rims and tires installed, balanced and aligned, and it still does it although it's a tiny bit better.

My Jeep is a 2011 WK2 Limited 4x4 with 128,xxx miles on it. Traditional suspension so no QL. We also have a 2015 JGC Overland with the QL and this has never happened before.

Any insight or thoughts are much appreciated!
at that mileage it could be just about any of the front end parts.. If it's shaking that badly the problem ought to be obvious to any competent front end repair place. It may well be becoming dangerous and I would have it looked at post haste.
 

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I agree with the previous respondent. If it were only at 55-65, I'd likely think wheel balance. Being that it is at virtually all speeds, I'd also recommend getting it checked out quickly.
 

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I also agree with whats been said.
Get it professionally checked out sooner not later as it could be a potential safety issue.

Unbalanced or oddly worn front tires are the 1st suspect with steering wheel vibrations.
But you replaced the tires complete with balancing along with an alignment.
The tech doing the alignment should of checked the front suspension 1st before doing the alignment.
 

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Is the steering wheel rocking back and forth, as in its steering left/right a few degrees on its own, or the shaking simply up/down vibration?

I've never had a wheel bearing make big vibrations, I suppose its possible, but it would be rare, I'd be looking at other things.
Look at your tire wear and see if that gives you any clues....
You can put the vehicle up on blocks with no weight on the wheels and give them the push/pull on each corner to see if there is any free play meaning worn out parts...

Upper Control Arms seem to wear out frequently on this vehicle (look at the suspension geometry and how much travel it has, it will be obvious why) and you can't tell till you have the upper control arm is disconnected if its bad. I was changing shocks and wheel bearings, after I disconnect the upper control arm, it was only then I noticed the bushings for it were completely sheered in half. I got new upper control arms and replaced them, and that totally cured my steering wheel rocking left/right, vibrating and tire cupping wear.
 

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Is the steering wheel rocking back and forth, as in its steering left/right a few degrees on its own, or the shaking simply up/down vibration?

I've never had a wheel bearing make big vibrations, I suppose its possible, but it would be rare, I'd be looking at other things.
Look at your tire wear and see if that gives you any clues....
You can put the vehicle up on blocks with no weight on the wheels and give them the push/pull on each corner to see if there is any free play meaning worn out parts...

Upper Control Arms seem to wear out frequently on this vehicle (look at the suspension geometry and how much travel it has, it will be obvious why) and you can't tell till you have the upper control arm is disconnected if its bad. I was changing shocks and wheel bearings, after I disconnect the upper control arm, it was only then I noticed the bushings for it were completely sheered in half. I got new upper control arms and replaced them, and that totally cured my steering wheel rocking left/right, vibrating and tire cupping wear.
It's shaking left and right on its own.
 

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What brands of UCA's would you recommend aside from Mopar. MOOG? Delphi? Right now I have no noticeable tire wear as the tires are maybe driven for 350-400 miles.
 

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It's shaking left and right on its own.
You're confusing me, is the steering wheel rocking, actually turning left/right on its own, OR its shaking? It seems like you're describing a horizontal vibration instead of a vertical?

I got moog upper control arms, they work fine.
 

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It is called Death wobble. common among Jeeps and other vehicles with a straight front axle. Try rotating the tires. A steering stabilizer may be needed or replaced. As others have said check with a 4x4 front end specialist.
 

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Death Wobble is axle shimmy, it only happens with front live axles. Which the WK2 has 4 wheel Independent suspension, so that rules that out. No we're not saying the vibrations or problem doesn't exist, we are just saying, Death Wobble is an often misused term that is for a specific problem that can not happen on a WK2, thus technically it can't be death wobble and you would be wasting your time and money trying to troubleshoot death wobble.
 

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Last three times I had wheel wobble were down to the following

1) mud on the inside of the front left rim. It was only in one place but made a big impact.

2) invisible ridges on the tyres - literally just able to feel them with my hands once they were taken off. They were running in line with the tread pattern.

3) two loose wheel nuts. Lots of squeaking at the time too.
 

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...I've had a terrible steering wheel shake while driving. I can feel it start around 15-25 mph, but once I get up to around 55-65 my passenger side seat starts to shake as well as my steering wheel. Around 78-82 mph it kind of smooths out weirdly. I can't tell if it's a bad wheel bearing, shocks/strut, or something else....
It difficult to capture a complaint in a sound recording or video. What you describe is not what I am seeing in the video. I see the steering wheel nudge slightly every couple of seconds.

When I had a torn up bushings in one of my upper control arms, that wheel was actually wobbling with speed because of the slop created by the torn up bearings. I had cupping tire wear that confirmed it was wobbling. The steering wheel rotated the same amount as your in the video, but it was constant and consistent, left/right rock, steering wheel turning a couple degrees above 25mph and the frequency increased with the speed.

Are you hitting bumps as the steering wheel nudges to the right?

It could be tire balance, rotating the tires might help trouble shoot and see if moving the out of balance tire would change things, at least at the front.
Inspect the suspension, see if you can find anything wrong, taking the weight off the tires/wheels and do the push pull to find any free play, you shouldn't find any, don't mistake being able to force the steering to turn as being free play.

While I suppose its possible one of the front shocks being blown might cause it, I would think more likely it is a worn ball joints or bad bushings, especially if the tug of the wheel comes from going over a bump.

Does the tug come with slowing of the vehicle or at least the feel of it. A grabbing brake or binding in the driveline might cause this as well.
 

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Is it the TPMS light on in the video? A tire pressure problem could cause problems. A tire on one side of the front could cause a pull to one side, and vibrations.
 

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From the videos i didn't see any thing 'terrible' about the steering wheel vibration.
But understanding that 'terrible' could be subjective.

As i mentioned earlier, the first thing to eliminate regarding steering wheel vibrations is to ensure the front tires are not oddly worn and are balanced properly.
If tire balancing was eliminated and especially if the front tires are oddly worn then its off to get the front end suspension checked out.
 

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Yes the TPMS sensor light is on in the video due to two bad rear TPMS sensors installed when I had my "new" rims installed, balanced, and aligned a few weeks ago. I have new TPMS sensors on the way for replacements. The rims and tires are basically brand new, maybe only 1500-2k miles on them before I had them installed. This problem has been happening before I purchased the new rims and tires, but with the new rims and tires the steering wheel shaking has come down a bit. The video I took wasn't the best but at the same time, it didn't capture the worst of the steering wheel shimmy. Sometimes it gets worse than what was shown in the video. The only terrible thing about it is that when I'm alone driving the vibration literally makes my passenger seat vibrate and shake.

Since I've had the new rims and tires my avg MPG has gone up from 13.2/5 to 17+ on the highway.

Mongo, the tires have all been Roadforce Balanced so I'm assuming its going to be my front control arms, especially since my truck has close to 130k miles on it with stock parts.
 

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Yes the TPMS sensor light is on in the video due to two bad rear TPMS sensors installed when I had my "new" rims installed, balanced, and aligned a few weeks ago. I have new TPMS sensors on the way for replacements. The rims and tires are basically brand new, maybe only 1500-2k miles on them before I had them installed. This problem has been happening before I purchased the new rims and tires, but with the new rims and tires the steering wheel shaking has come down a bit. The video I took wasn't the best but at the same time, it didn't capture the worst of the steering wheel shimmy. Sometimes it gets worse than what was shown in the video. The only terrible thing about it is that when I'm alone driving the vibration literally makes my passenger seat vibrate and shake.

Since I've had the new rims and tires my avg MPG has gone up from 13.2/5 to 17+ on the highway.

Mongo, the tires have all been Roadforce Balanced so I'm assuming its going to be my front control arms, especially since my truck has close to 130k miles on it with stock parts.
Ok after reading that, tires are probably not the issue but 130K miles probably is.
It could be any number of worn parts in the front suspension.
I'd get the front end checked out preferably by a front end shop and call it a day.
The guy who did the alignment should of checked it out thoroughly but thats water over the dam now.

My WK2's steering wheel is solid as can be at any speeds but it only has 45K miles on it.
In addition it got its 1st flat tire a couple days ago which brought to light it needs new tires sooner not later.
The point is that the tires were balding but what tire thread is left was not oddly worn.
 

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Mongo, the tires have all been Roadforce Balanced so I'm assuming its going to be my front control arms, especially since my truck has close to 130k miles on it with stock parts.
My steering wheel acted differently than yours when I had bad upper control arm. It is a part that seems to wear out sooner than the others, but I think you're jumping to conclusions by replacing upper control arms. This problem really needs to be troubleshot and diagnosed. If you're planning on having a shop replace the upper control arms for you, and get the arms yourself, I'd bring it for them and ask for diagnosis and troubleshooting and replace the upper arms you supply as a preventative measure.
 
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