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Hey everyone, Please so not turn this into a V6 vs V8 thread, that is absolutely not my intention. I am considering trading my 2011 Overland in for a 2014 and one of the decisions I am struggling with is should I move over to the V6 from the V8.

My primary reason is the better gas mileage. I drive almost entirely in the city and the V8 gas mileage is pretty pitiful (I knew that when I purchased it).

My questions is really for people that live in high altitude, like here in Denver, how does the V6 do at altitude and on the drive up in the mountains? Does is struggle accelerating past cars while going up and over Vail or Loveland pass for example?

I like the power of the V8 and I think for in the city the V6 will be just fine but I am really curious how it does up in the mountains.

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I have had no problems heading up I70 to the mountains. Eisenhower eastbound and Vail pass eastbound its definitely working hard but holds the speed limit and then some just fine.
 

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Have a 2012 GC LTD V6 and have been all over mountains in the West -- Colorado, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming. Tough mountain passes like Vail Pass and Kenosha Pass are NO PROBLEM for this V6 even with a heavy cargo load.
 

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My primary reason is the better gas mileage. I drive almost entirely in the city and the V8 gas mileage is pretty pitiful (I knew that when I purchased it).

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Mashie
I will soon, hopefully, be ordering a 2014 Overland and I am debating V6 or V8. I will be replacing a 2002 Montero sport with a 3.5 liter v6 that is horrible in gas. Like 14 city and 20 highway if I'm not mistaken. I am in altitude too in about 3,800 feet. Not mile high but enough.

I would like to know what is your mpg with the hemi driving all city? Do you go by the computer or do you calculate it old school, how many gallons in the tank and how many miles did you drive? Have you taken any road trips of significant distance to get an idea on how the hemi highway mpg was? Any modifications or completely stock?

I too do not want this to be about V6 vs V8 I just want to get more information about the mpg of the hemi since all other discussions turned into the V6 vs V8 wars.
Thanks in advance for the info.
 

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Clearly the new V6 is far superior to the one I have in my 09.

That gutless pile of hell is usually in 3rd and pegged at around 4k going up the passes between here and in Montana.

A big reason I'm going to the CRD as well.
 

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I will soon, hopefully, be ordering a 2014 Overland and I am debating V6 or V8. I will be replacing a 2002 Montero sport with a 3.5 liter v6 that is horrible in gas. Like 14 city and 20 highway if I'm not mistaken. I am in altitude too in about 3,800 feet. Not mile high but enough.

I would like to know what is your mpg with the hemi driving all city? Do you go by the computer or do you calculate it old school, how many gallons in the tank and how many miles did you drive? Have you taken any road trips of significant distance to get an idea on how the hemi highway mpg was? Any modifications or completely stock?

I too do not want this to be about V6 vs V8 I just want to get more information about the mpg of the hemi since all other discussions turned into the V6 vs V8 wars.
Thanks in advance for the info.
I am just using what is on the Evic (too lazy to do measure it the old fashioned way). For my in-city driving I have been getting between 13.5 and 14.0 MGP. Tires are all at the right pressure and the Jeep is very well maintained.

The highest I have ever seen it was 17MPG but that was coming down out of the mountains on am empty road with my foot off the gas just coasting down :). I guess I am going to have to take a drive out to the local dealership and take one up into the foothills and see how it feels.
 

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What about the diesel... it would go up those hills without thinking about it... and gets the same in city or better than the v6...
 

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Power of the v6 is fine, what I find the as the problem is the transmission. If you leave it in cruise control at say, 70mph, and start heading up an incline... it PUNCHES IT and lunges forward once it downshifts. The engine itself is strong though, never really been a time where I thought "I need more power". The only times I notice are heading up a hill and say "I wish this could drop from 6th to 4th/5th gear, instead of 5th to 3rd"

If picking up a '14 - I would assume that this is "fixed" with an 8 speed transmission.
 

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Agree, a good turbo can maintain the same MAP at any altitude with a road. Feel that the only places for a supercharger are either above 10,000 feet or on a diesel.
Indeed.

At altitude, chances are that a CRD would eat a Hemi alive (probably give an SRT a run for it's money as well).
 

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Test drive the crd and you will instantly forget about the petrol v6 and v8
What I find interesting is the fact that most people if not everyone is forgetting about the fact that the CRD commands a hefty pricetag.

I do not doubt by any means that the CRD will eat the V6 lunch and even be superior to the Hemi once that turbo spools. However at $4,500 upcharge from the V6 and $2,800 (prices may not be accurate) or so upcharge from the Hemi I think I personally will pass.

Clubby, by how you reffered to gasoline as petrol I want to guess that you are either from Europe or Australia and if that's the case I would buy a crd over there in a heart beat considering all the alternatives. The thing is over here in the USA the price of diesel is actually higher than regular petrol in most states by about $0.30 to $0.75 cents. Adding all those things up it doesn't make financial sense to invest on a CRD unless you drive like over 20k miles a year and will keep it for well over 6-7 years. (Not trying to make this into a flame war about engine sizes or type and not backing this #s up with facts, just my personal opinion)
 

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Adding all those things up it doesn't make financial sense to invest on...
When was the last time you got more for your car then you bought it for?

This notion of "investing" in a car is silly.

You buy the car you like, otherwise, we'd all be driving cars we hate but that made the most fiscal sense.
 

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My 2012 GC Ltd V6 does very well at the altitudes. Drove it quite a bit in the mountain passes last Summer/Fall and it was fine with 4.5 people and a dog w/ luggage. IIRC, I got an average of 21 mpg for the whole trip last Fall.

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What I find interesting is the fact that most people if not everyone is forgetting about the fact that the CRD commands a hefty pricetag.

I do not doubt by any means that the CRD will eat the V6 lunch and even be superior to the Hemi once that turbo spools. However at $4,500 upcharge from the V6 and $2,800 (prices may not be accurate) or so upcharge from the Hemi I think I personally will pass.

Clubby, by how you reffered to gasoline as petrol I want to guess that you are either from Europe or Australia and if that's the case I would buy a crd over there in a heart beat considering all the alternatives. The thing is over here in the USA the price of diesel is actually higher than regular petrol in most states by about $0.30 to $0.75 cents. Adding all those things up it doesn't make financial sense to invest on a CRD unless you drive like over 20k miles a year and will keep it for well over 6-7 years. (Not trying to make this into a flame war about engine sizes or type and not backing this #s up with facts, just my personal opinion)
Hi, i am from australia, everyone has their own personal reason on what type of car and which engine option they choose if there is more than one to choose from, for me after test driving all 3 engines the crd was the most enjoyable and by far felt the most lively, and being a car enthusiast instantly fell in love with it, simply felt and still do that it is worth every extra dollar they charge extra for it, it's fuel economy achieving around 1000 km's per tank is just an added bonus.
 

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When was the last time you got more for your car then you bought it for?

This notion of "investing" in a car is silly.

You buy the car you like, otherwise, we'd all be driving cars we hate but that made the most fiscal sense.
You sir are correct in that no-one can or should even put investing and car in the same sentence since a vehicle is a diminishing/devaluating asset if we can even call it that. I guess what I meant to say is that spending the extra money for the crd is something that shouldnt be justify based on mpg. Is all I'm saying. I drive some F250 diesel trucks in my line of work from time to time and trust me once that turbo spins it is a rocket. I love it.

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Hi, i am from australia, everyone has their own personal reason on what type of car and which engine option they choose if there is more than one to choose from, for me after test driving all 3 engines the crd was the most enjoyable and by far felt the most lively, and being a car enthusiast instantly fell in love with it, simply felt and still do that it is worth every extra dollar they charge extra for it, it's fuel economy achieving around 1000 km's per tank is just an added bonus.
You sir hit the nail in the head and dented it. Some people drive Prius cause they want to see the little green leaves in the dash, some drive big H1 Hummers and I see them both at Starbucks trying to be all uppity up. So to each its own. As long as the one paying the car note every month is happy is all that matter.

Dang it everyone. Now I may have to wait to test drive a darn crd. Okay. Let's stop talking about it. Hehehe

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My 2012 GC Ltd V6 does very well at the altitudes. Drove it quite a bit in the mountain passes last Summer/Fall and it was fine with 4.5 people and a dog w/ luggage. IIRC, I got an average of 21 mpg for the whole trip last Fall.

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Very nice to hear. I may just buy a V6 overland and wait till redesign 2017 to get me a crd. By then they should be all smooth as butter.

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