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Still finding minor changes that are much improved over the previous gen.

This weekend I noticed...

1. The front camera in the windshield has heat strips in front of it now to defrost the cameras view.

2. The power windows are smoother and really quiet compared to the WK2's.

What are others you've noticed?
 

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Soaks up bumps way better (there are roads with certain frost heaves that I regular drive, and after 6 years of two different WK2s, the WL handles them much more quietly and smoothly).

digital rearview mirror is awesome.

LED headlamps are much better.
 

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We have a 2023 Overland 4Xe - super quiet, very smooth and mileage has been great - have driven combo of freeway and around town. Mileage is upper 30's to low 40's. From the dealer day 1 - the average says 29.6. Other favorite things, Night Vision, Massage Seats, McIntosh Audio and extensive adjustments for the seats. Fit and finish over our 2015 Summit Eco Diesel - WL is a way better product.
Having said that the 2022 Overland V6 we bought was a mess. FCA did us right -they bought it back.
Not counting the 2022 this is our 8th Grand Cherokee. First. one was a 1996. - then 98, 99, 2001, 2005, 2011, 2015 and now the 2023.
2nd favorite was the 15 Eco Diesel. The diesel prices and it being 7 years old pushed us to the new one.
 

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We have a 2023 Overland 4Xe - super quiet, very smooth and mileage has been great - have driven combo of freeway and around town. Mileage is upper 30's to low 40's. From the dealer day 1 - the average says 29.6. Other favorite things, Night Vision, Massage Seats, McIntosh Audio and extensive adjustments for the seats. Fit and finish over our 2015 Summit Eco Diesel - WL is a way better product.
Having said that the 2022 Overland V6 we bought was a mess. FCA did us right -they bought it back.
Not counting the 2022 this is our 8th Grand Cherokee. First. one was a 1996. - then 98, 99, 2001, 2005, 2011, 2015 and now the 2023.
2nd favorite was the 15 Eco Diesel. The diesel prices and it being 7 years old pushed us to the new one.
Glad you’re enjoying the 4Xe!
 

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Rear seat legroom is improved. The interior is hands down the best improvement.. people are surprised by the detail in our SR.
I miss the around town grunt of my SRT and glorious sound with the borla Stype exhaust.
but that aside the WL is better in every department.
 

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I like the front grill better on the WK2 personally but the interior is much more refined on the WL.
I think most people would agree with you.
I LOVED the stance and face of my SRT.
when I first seen photos of the the new grand Cherokee, I left comments on Car&Drivers article calling it a “Neanderthal”…
I was pissed.
Funny thing happened tho as I started to see them in real life, all of a sudden the WK2 became dated and didn’t excite me like it used too.
the WL (especially in higher trim) has more of a presence about it. Looks a bit pissed off and up market to me.

I still wish they would take the forward cant out of the grill..just dial it back a few degrees.
but overall it’s well done redesign.
I can’t stand the palisade..and any SUV with a overly swoopy design.
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Humans generally don't like imposed change, and most new designs face backlash from fans of the old design. Sometimes one comes along that the majority fall in love with right away, but most new designs are ultimately compromised versions of the designers original vision, due to all manner of engineering, production and cost considerations, layered over the top of the original vision. This phenomenon is why Jeep was so conservative with the last Wrangler update (aversion to change within the customer base) while the Bronco was almost universally loved (not following a recent model).

That said, I loved the WK when it came out, and thought the WK2 was a mistake at first, especially the headlights, but it grew on me and I still really like the way they look now. The forward cant of the WL wasn't my favorite either, but the new car has a decidedly more upmarket goal, and they wanted to differentiate it I'm sure. Does it work? Will it grow on me, or any of us? I think it will. The WL has a more 'stern/conservative' affect up front, where the WK2 looked more svelte and athletic up front.

Looking at the future midlife refresh schedule and platform replacement, this design is going to be around a long time (until 2027 for a refresh, and 2033 for a new platform on the L, 29/35 on the two row). The below production schedule (which does look to come from the Stellantis system based on other things I've seen) is obviously subject to change, but it seems like this platform is going to have a long life, which is nice with regard to our cars not looking 'last generation' longer than most.

Also, the CEO is on record as expecting battery tech to fall in cost, double in density, and recharge times to drop substantially 'but won't be seen in today's platforms'. If that is their outlook (and it seems reasonable based on various industry news) they will be throwing their resources into next gen EV-only platforms. If the battery tech matures and improves as they have good reason to expect, they won't throw huge sums of money into dinosaur-powered platforms in the interim, knowing EV SUVs with 600 mile range (maybe 250-300 while towing) are on the horizon, which will pretty much obviate all arguments for gas engines when it happens, in all but HD diesel pickups probably.

Looking at the below, I'd guess they might be targeting 2027 to introduce a Hurricane-based 4xe WL75 (it's been noted already, but no timeline announced), which will carry through to 2033 when we might see the dawn of an EV-only platform.

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While I am sure the WL has many improvements over the WK2, looks are not one of them. While I know looks are subjective, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I must say that I do not care for its appearance at all.
 

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While I am sure the WL has many improvements over the WK2, looks are not one of them. While I know looks are subjective, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I must say that I do not care for its appearance at all.
I don't particularly like the rear quarter view of the 2 row WLs (or the non-L Wagoneers) but overall love them all, especially the interior. The WK2 do still look more rugged overall, mainly because of seeing them for over a decade on the road I guess. I thought the WKs looked more Jeep like to when the WK2 came out, I thought the "new" 2011- ones looked too "luxurious" for a Jeep.
 

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I don't dislike the WL 'L' exterior, but the two row looks a little weird to me, and some colors look better than others. I liked the WK2 better overall (on the outside), but I flat out HATED the E60 BMW when it came out, and now we can't get rid of my wife's 535xi wagon because (1) the driving experience is better than anything this side of an RS6 avant or an E63 wagon, and they stopped importing 5 series wagons. It was a weird design out of the gate, but it looks more modern now than anything else that was around when it came out.

The WL is acceptably 'handsome' in the upper trims. It looks weird with less than 20" wheels to me, proportionally (I wish it didn't). It's more 'staid' than 'athletic'. But the interior is extremely nice for an American car, although still a slight step below upscale 2021+ euro offerings. It's in the "I definitely like it" category, but it's a long way from the drool factor of, say, the Audi RS6 wagon, for me. That said, I still look at it and think "this is a nice 🤬 car" (if everything actually worked, hopefully my new one, due this week, will).
 

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Having had two WK2s and now the WL, I will say I think the WK2 had a more sporty look with the WL having a more elegant look. I love the front end of the WL more, but I like the rear quarter of the WK2 better (the rear of the WL is a little too square to the eye and can make the back look squatty. Very practical and increases space, but can have a squatty look). Also given the more squared look of the WL and lack of accents (WK2 has chrome window surround, door handles, mirrors, etc) I feel the dark colors suffer from lack of interesting lines turning into a blob (I originally wanted black but it looks like a hearse on the 3-row).
 

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The WK2 was a great design, but it's old, and starting to get long in the tooth. I like the WL, but I wish they had ventured a little more towards 'modern', and a little further from 'conservative'. It's not an easy game to play, though. Not only does it have to not 'offend', but it has to look good for at least 5 years or more before a refresh, and the main architecture will apparently be around for over a decade, so they can't take too many chances either.
 

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Yeah. And they will probably make some cosmetic changes over time. If you look at the life of the WK2, you can see changes to the rear, the grill, the trimming, etc. but it’s still the same body.
 

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That D-pillar mullet look (floating roof line) on the 2-row WL puts me off every time I see it. I like the design overall in the higher trims, but I like the chrome accents on my 16'WK2 and on the WL the chrome appears to accentuate the floating d-pillar...if they can some how remove that floating D pillar look I'll pull the trigger much sooner. Hope my 16' WK2 (106k miles) makes it to the WL refresh!
 

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That D-pillar mullet look (floating roof line) on the 2-row WL puts me off every time I see it. I like the design overall in the higher trims, but I like the chrome accents on my 16'WK2 and on the WL the chrome appears to accentuate the floating d-pillar...if they can some how remove that floating D pillar look I'll pull the trigger much sooner. Hope my 16' WK2 (106k miles) makes it to the WL refresh!
Like the original Compass, the new Jeep Avenger, they keep losing it at the rear window area. Same with the Wagoneers, but the Wagoneer L looks OK.
 

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I haven't driven a WK but my WL corners real nice for how big it is. I believe its based on the lowering of the engine which created a lower center of gravity vs. the WK /WK2
 

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I haven't driven a WK but my WL corners real nice for how big it is. I believe its based on the lowering of the engine which created a lower center of gravity vs. the WK /WK2
The WK2 definitely drives sportier and is much more spry. The WL drives much more supple, composed, and smoother. I had a 2016 and a 2019 WK2, and noticed the differences when test driving the WL multiple times. Getting back in the WK2 always felt like a much more agile vehicle. But the WL soaks up the miles and bumps much better.
 
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