im getting this message on the dashboard (service Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems). 3 days ago i had 2 TPMS replaced and all has been fine and working then today i get that MSG on the dash no other dummy lights just the msg any ideas.
ryanwk
disconnect the negative on the battery and then release all electric in the sytsme by stepping on the brake pedal a couple times. Then reconnect
ok...sounds like they put he wrong sensors in...The 315MHz sensors will not work in the 433MHz system and visa versa. Who did the replacement sensors for you and are they oem?
they are aftermarket and they work(i think). they give me the correct psi on the dash but also gives me the service system msg
the ones i got
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/TirePressu...A/TirePressureMonitoringSystemsSensor/Jeep/GrandCherokee/1ATPK00001/360960/2005
the ones i got
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/TirePressu...A/TirePressureMonitoringSystemsSensor/Jeep/GrandCherokee/1ATPK00001/360960/2005
I dont think so....you'd have to remove the wcm.....which also controls others things...like the key/starting....LOL
I had this same issue with a replacement sensor. Tried everything that was listed here. The only thing that worked for me was deflating, then rotating, and re-infalting the tires. I had to deflate to almost 5 psi before the vehicle stopped receiving the signal. Also, later I put on a set of factory wheels that I got off a new JKU, with the spare tire deflated, and have had no issues.
Oh, I almost forgot, after rotating and reinflating... I read somewhere that the engine needs to be "on" for upwards of almost 20 minutes for the computer to fully "re-learn" the sensors and their position. The values were reading on the EVIC after only like 2-3 minutes, but I left it "on" while I washed it down.
Hi guys - I just found then joined this GREAT group seeing the amazing level of (free) Jeep knowledge -- FAR beyond what my dealer possesses! I have the same issue. Was it decided you CAN disable message with STARSCAN or not? Problem began months ago with one tire having VERY slow leak. Dealer could not find leak in tire. A local shop discovered psi sensor for that tire had SLOW leak. Replaced sensor and no more leak BUT this dash message appeared (intermittent) I had never seen before. I'm out $300 thus far and shop is now on their own time and money but will not give up even after I said "stop - I'll live with it". Three days ago they said sensor on another tire is bad and is the problem. I said "probability of another sensor failing the exact moment I drove off after replacing leaking sensor in eight year-old Jeep (2006 JGC) is a billion to one". They said "computer says bad sensor - shall we replace it?". I am a computer engineer so I noted to them "computers screw up too - it is unlikely the sensor is really bad but you are so positive I'll go another $171 for second sensor IF it fixes it". Replaced second sensor and, as I expected, did NOT fix problem. AND they could not disable dash message. The psi readings on center readout all correct. Message still intermittent. Other points ditto to earlier posts. I have done all except deflate tires. Would prefer to just turn off message. Possible? Any other ideas? Help! Thanks much. 
They will have to program the new sensor ID's into the Wireless Control Module (WCM) to get the message to go away. I would highly recommend you replace all the sensors so you won't have to endure this issue multiple times. If the battery went out (or you had another problem) on one, the others are probably close behind, especially now that your vehicle is a little over 8 years old. I replaced all mine on my 06 recently when I got new wheels/tires. I had the same problem most are having with the 05-07's.
The problem is with Chrysler/Jeep. The idiots programmed the ID numbers of the original sensors into your Wireless Control Module (also known as SKREEM module) at the factory. They are stored in the non-volatile memory, so the only way to get it changed is go to the dumb a$$ stealer and have them charge you mega $$$ just to change the ID No's in th WCM. You're right though, the new sensors will all work fine, but you'll get that message forever, unless you change the ID's on the new sensors to the ones that were on your original sensors.....or pay to have the ID's in the WCM to reflect your new sensor ID's. Talk about stupid!!
What I have done is purchase Dorman cloneable sensors (all of theirs are now suppose to be) and their cloning tool. You can purchase it as a kit. It'll work on all Dorman sensors (315 and 433 mhz) that are cloneable. Just get the ID's off your original sensors (you can get them read at any tire shop, or buy a reset tool), clone them onto the new ones and your light will go away. I, personally, refuse to go to the stealer and have them fleece me, solely because of their stupidity in designing the system. If you want, go to the dumb stealer and ask how much it'll cost for them to do it for you with their StarScan tool. Add in you inconvenience and hassle of taking it in, and then deduct that from the cost of the kit (again it'll work on all Dorman cloneable sensors) and that'll be your real cost.
Edit: If you don't have the old original sensor(s) you'll have to either go to the stealer and have them get them off the WCM with the StarScan or find someone with a diagnostic tool (such as a Autel MaxiDas DS708) that will read them.
The problem is with Chrysler/Jeep. The idiots programmed the ID numbers of the original sensors into your Wireless Control Module (also known as SKREEM module) at the factory. They are stored in the non-volatile memory, so the only way to get it changed is go to the dumb a$$ stealer and have them charge you mega $$$ just to change the ID No's in th WCM. You're right though, the new sensors will all work fine, but you'll get that message forever, unless you change the ID's on the new sensors to the ones that were on your original sensors.....or pay to have the ID's in the WCM to reflect your new sensor ID's. Talk about stupid!!
What I have done is purchase Dorman cloneable sensors (all of theirs are now suppose to be) and their cloning tool. You can purchase it as a kit. It'll work on all Dorman sensors (315 and 433 mhz) that are cloneable. Just get the ID's off your original sensors (you can get them read at any tire shop, or buy a reset tool), clone them onto the new ones and your light will go away. I, personally, refuse to go to the stealer and have them fleece me, solely because of their stupidity in designing the system. If you want, go to the dumb stealer and ask how much it'll cost for them to do it for you with their StarScan tool. Add in you inconvenience and hassle of taking it in, and then deduct that from the cost of the kit (again it'll work on all Dorman cloneable sensors) and that'll be your real cost.
Edit: If you don't have the old original sensor(s) you'll have to either go to the stealer and have them get them off the WCM with the StarScan or find someone with a diagnostic tool (such as a Autel MaxiDas DS708) that will read them.
Wow!! No, Wow!!! times ten!!! Your response taking the time you took to help me and the BEYOND amazing grasp of this and your knowledge that blows my dealer away (who I thought was pretty good) almost leaves me speechless. Thank you so so much!! Actually the Jeep dealer gave up after three attempts but only looking for a tire leak (I've not spoken with them again but that they didn't even think to check the sensor really disappoints me with them. They recently "changed" to a new service manager and many of their best techs "went elsewhere". The new manager was manager of their body shop. I've had a few encounters with him there and he always did body repair properly but I was a bit leery after I watched him repaint the entire front of my Jeep just because of a few paint chips. He had a service bulletin that "authorized" dealers to repaint 2006 JGC's in a certain VIN range. Something about potential inadequate primer. I don't think my Jeep had a primer problem so, to me, he took advantage of Jeep. I'm guessing dealership owner hopes he'll do the same "tricks" in service. A way to lose your franchise IMO!
The leaking sensor was found by a local repair shop. Message only came on (intermittent) after sensor was replaced. No more leak but now have annoying message. Repair shop said their computer says another sensor went bad which, to me, is statistically a million to one (that a second sensor would fail the same day and MINUTE! the leaking sensor is replaced). I will get your info to the shop owner early Monday. He's been saying some of what you said but only parts of your response - so I think he has been on the right track but does not have the in-depth knowledge you have.
May I trouble you with another question? I heard a code could turn the message off (but also turn off ALL of the tire monitoring). Based on $$ I might lean that way if it is possible. I read one thread that it WAS possible but another than it required a massive mod plus the code to turn off the entire psi monitor system. Do you happen to know if it as simple as inputting a code and, if so, what the code is?
:thumbsup:Thanks much!!!!!! I am really in your debt! Gary in Kansas
The leaking sensor was found by a local repair shop. Message only came on (intermittent) after sensor was replaced. No more leak but now have annoying message. Repair shop said their computer says another sensor went bad which, to me, is statistically a million to one (that a second sensor would fail the same day and MINUTE! the leaking sensor is replaced). I will get your info to the shop owner early Monday. He's been saying some of what you said but only parts of your response - so I think he has been on the right track but does not have the in-depth knowledge you have.
May I trouble you with another question? I heard a code could turn the message off (but also turn off ALL of the tire monitoring). Based on $$ I might lean that way if it is possible. I read one thread that it WAS possible but another than it required a massive mod plus the code to turn off the entire psi monitor system. Do you happen to know if it as simple as inputting a code and, if so, what the code is?
:thumbsup:Thanks much!!!!!! I am really in your debt! Gary in Kansas
I am not aware of any way to turn the TPMS off. I also would not recommend it, mostly because of liability issues if you had an accident that was tire pressure related and you had the system turned off. I know my tire guys told me that they can't even do tire switches from summer to winter tires if the TPMS doesn't work with the set of tires they're installing.
I know you're already into this debacle for quite a few $$$, but I would still recommend you get a Dorman kit (~$250 with 4 new cloneable sensors), bite the bullet, get the ID No.s off the WCM, and change all the sensors at one time, Here's where I got mine (I see price has just gone up about $10.): Dorman 974-515 MULTi-FIT (315) Universal Programmable Tire Pressure Monitoring System Kit | AmazonSupply.com Granted, all this will probably cost you another ~$300-400, but you'll come away with a new tool and a better understanding of this stupid system. After this is done you'll probably never have a problem again, unless you keep your vehicles forever like I do. Also, remember this tool is good for all 2006 and later vehicles, so chances are you'll be able to use it on future vehicles. Good luck and let us know what you do and how it comes out.
Edit: What I have done is write the sensor ID's on the WCM for each tire position (including the spare) and I keep it with the tool in case I ever need it again.
I know you're already into this debacle for quite a few $$$, but I would still recommend you get a Dorman kit (~$250 with 4 new cloneable sensors), bite the bullet, get the ID No.s off the WCM, and change all the sensors at one time, Here's where I got mine (I see price has just gone up about $10.): Dorman 974-515 MULTi-FIT (315) Universal Programmable Tire Pressure Monitoring System Kit | AmazonSupply.com Granted, all this will probably cost you another ~$300-400, but you'll come away with a new tool and a better understanding of this stupid system. After this is done you'll probably never have a problem again, unless you keep your vehicles forever like I do. Also, remember this tool is good for all 2006 and later vehicles, so chances are you'll be able to use it on future vehicles. Good luck and let us know what you do and how it comes out.
Edit: What I have done is write the sensor ID's on the WCM for each tire position (including the spare) and I keep it with the tool in case I ever need it again.
Thank you again. I've concluded you must be an ex-senior engineering manager at Jeep (I say ex only due to your comments about Jeep design). What can I say? Beyond amazing! Jeep REALLY needs to hire you as a design and tech support consultant at what ever (very high) rate you would charge them. If they had a few people like you (or just one - you!) they wouldn't be losing me as a (formerly) loyal life long customer.
From my first Jeep in 1994 I was going to own Jeeps the rest of my life but not now. Even my wife whose normal reaction is to want the opposite of what I prefer decided she wanted a Jeep so when it came time for a new car she only looked at Jeeps (2004 so it is before the psi sensor fiasco).
But, looking back, TOO many times the dealer told me "it's the computer, it is bad". Being a computer engineer each time I knew the particular problem could NOT be the computer and I pushed until they found and fixed the actual problem - and ALWAYS far less in $$ than the price of a new computer. Twice I found and fixed the problem myself after they had given up.
I had already decided to sell the 2006 Jeep and buy another brand. This cinches that - "sell it". A stuck on message light will be an annoyance for a new owner and will require I drop the price some but I really doubt I'll have to drop it anywhere close to a $1,000+. A few hundred dollars maybe?
I've sent your messages to the local repair shop. I feel bad for them as the owner since last Tuesday told me "we're now working on our nickel". But I've now asked him by e-mail if he accepts all you wrote (I wouldn't know why not) and that I am not going to put a $1,000+ into this to get the message to go away. I'll drop the price a few hundred dollars and sell it as is.
Even though I'll be down to just one Jeep I still VERY much value my new membership in Jeep Garage! The level of knowledge you have is beyond what anyone could have imagined! I suspect there may be a few others on this site who come in a close second to you in Jeep knowledge making Jeep Garage a "world class" level help Web site! So with Jeep Garage I'll at least stay on top of our remaining 2004. If only I had consulted Jeep Garage on my 2006 BEFORE taking it in for repair I wouldn't be left with the mess I have now. Second guessing after the fact is always nice but can never change the past.
Thanks again!! and
Best regards
Gary in Kansas
From my first Jeep in 1994 I was going to own Jeeps the rest of my life but not now. Even my wife whose normal reaction is to want the opposite of what I prefer decided she wanted a Jeep so when it came time for a new car she only looked at Jeeps (2004 so it is before the psi sensor fiasco).
But, looking back, TOO many times the dealer told me "it's the computer, it is bad". Being a computer engineer each time I knew the particular problem could NOT be the computer and I pushed until they found and fixed the actual problem - and ALWAYS far less in $$ than the price of a new computer. Twice I found and fixed the problem myself after they had given up.
I had already decided to sell the 2006 Jeep and buy another brand. This cinches that - "sell it". A stuck on message light will be an annoyance for a new owner and will require I drop the price some but I really doubt I'll have to drop it anywhere close to a $1,000+. A few hundred dollars maybe?
I've sent your messages to the local repair shop. I feel bad for them as the owner since last Tuesday told me "we're now working on our nickel". But I've now asked him by e-mail if he accepts all you wrote (I wouldn't know why not) and that I am not going to put a $1,000+ into this to get the message to go away. I'll drop the price a few hundred dollars and sell it as is.
Even though I'll be down to just one Jeep I still VERY much value my new membership in Jeep Garage! The level of knowledge you have is beyond what anyone could have imagined! I suspect there may be a few others on this site who come in a close second to you in Jeep knowledge making Jeep Garage a "world class" level help Web site! So with Jeep Garage I'll at least stay on top of our remaining 2004. If only I had consulted Jeep Garage on my 2006 BEFORE taking it in for repair I wouldn't be left with the mess I have now. Second guessing after the fact is always nice but can never change the past.
Thanks again!! and
Best regards
Gary in Kansas
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