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BlackVue DR650S-2ch Review/Install in 2017 GC SRT

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#1 ·
Hey guys,

I just finished throwing together a review/install video of the BlackVue DR650S 2 channel dash cam in my 2017 Grand Cherokee SRT.

If anyone wants to see where to access a pretty conveniently placed 12v constant power wire, I show it in the video. I also run through where to mount the rear camera and cables through the lift gate.

I'm sure most of you guys already know how to do this stuff, but you never know.

As a side note, I do NOT recommend this camera. I'm actually returning it for a Thinkware F770 (reasons why are spelled out in the video).

Let me know what you guys think!

Enjoy!

-Ironside

https://youtu.be/e38nmHfuTLQ
 
#3 ·
The YouTube audio is fine for me.

As for Micro SD cards, this is not just a Blackvue issue, it's happens with many dash cams . You do NOT need a Blackvue card (they are insanely expensive), what you want is basically the slowest class 10 card you can get. The issue with the super fast ones is they heat up a shite tonne and cause the issues you have or worse. Sandisk is a no no full stop (that said, some have had luck with them), and it seems to be hit an miss among others. I have been using my Blackvue 650-2CH with a Samsung EVO for a couple of years with no issue.
I have 64GB, and it's good for recording 11Hrs non stop footage of both on the highest settings.

I also have not experienced the Pixel or Park issue you have, either the sensitivity or the delay in switching.
I had two issues. I thought the image quality was pretty average from day 1. Part of that was the low bitrate, which they have increased in firmware patches to a better rate. However, I still had it look like crap, turned out it was my lens not being focussed correctly. Contacted them after the warranty had ran out, and they fixed it, well replaced the unit.

The WiFi streaming of recorded info, I barely use, as I have had no need to other than test it. I just did it then, I am in the lounge in my house, the car is 30-40 feet away through a few walls and it took about 20 seconds to play the first video on my iPhone 6S.

Your video quality is among the worse I have seen, waaay worse than mine, have a look at other YouTube reviews and you will see a vast difference. You seem to be cursed and gotten everything possible as crap.

I do wish our video quality was better, no doubt, but it's bot even remotely as bad as yours.
 
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Thank you for the feedback!

Yeah, like I said, the first set of cameras were riddled with problems and the second set, while better than the first, still weren't anything to write home about.

Part of me was willing to give Blackvue more of a chance, but I felt I had to make a decision before the 30 day return policy expired. I just didn't want to take the chance of getting stuck with them if there were problems down the road.

A friend of mine has the same system, and only had the problem where his cameras would reboot randomly.

It really seems like dash cams aren't an exact science yet.

I'm really looking forward to the Thinkware F770, though. 1080p front AND back sounds nice!


There seems to be no audio with your video on YouTube. Tried in two browsers.

Brad.
That's strange.

I am noticing my voice is kind of tinny/quiet. I wonder if it has to do with my new camera recording 5.1 surround audio, rather than stereo...?
 
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Just watched two videos comparing the F770 and 650S. They contradict each other with the results.

Clear as mud, that's helpful.
 
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Just watched two videos comparing the F770 and 650S. They contradict each other with the results.

Clear as mud, that's helpful.
Yeah, I've seen a few pro-Blackvue and a few pro-Thinkware. I've even seen a pro-Thinkware video where the Blackvue LOOKED way better quality!

The features of the Thinkware F770 are what I think will put it out front. I'll definitely be making a quick review video when I get it (with better audio). :lol:
 
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Hey man, just watched your video and noticed we're from the same area. I have the thinkware f770 and the quality is amazing. Nice jeep!
Thanks man! You live in Windsor?

I'm thinking of just sticking with the F770, since it's already been shipped. The new F800 seems cool, as far as having better night vision, but it doesn't appear to have built in GPS.

Also, it looks like Thinkware is jumping on board the whole "cloud" thing with the F800, which I find pretty useless without a mobile hotspot (which I'm not willing to pay for).

It sucks to not have the latest and greatest, but I'm sure the F770 will get the job done.

I have the newest blackvue coming...cant wait. Got mine worth the battery pack
Which Blackvue is that? DR650S-2ch?
 
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Follow-up video to my Blackvue dash cam vid; the Thinkware F770!

I think this camera system is far superior to the Blackvue, but it's all about preference.

Check it out and let me know what you guys think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX_rMFu_CWs
 
#20 ·
I ended up with the 650S-2CH. Having now seen your F770 review, I may have swung that way instead. But for the most part I'm reasonably happy with the 650S.

- Yeah, the rear camera quality isn't great, but during the day it'll see nearby license plate numbers. I live out in the country, so night driving is dark enough that I don't have high expectations.
- The front camera has lots and lots of dead/stuck pixels. You only notice them with night videos. Obviously inferior quality camera parts.
- The bundle deal included the polarizing filter. Way overpriced for what it is, but it does make a dramatic difference as far as cutting down reflections.

For me though, the main weakness and strength comes from the WiFi/Cloud connectivity. Basically, there are flaws in the implementation. The Blackvue Cloud functionality may impress some people, but is extremely limited. It's basically designed for people with in-car WiFi that's on/connected all the time.
I have mine set to connect to my home router. And when it does connect, all is well. But if I go for a drive and return, it won't reconnect by itself. I have to disable/enable WiFi via the button, or do a power-cycle reset.

The reason this is important to me is, you only have a few limited options to get your videos off the camera:
- Yank the microSD and plug into a PC, which is risky in terms of damage & wear.
- Use the iThing or Android apps to connect to WiFi and do a major song'n'dance to pull the videos. Slow and infuriating poor design, and nearly impossible to get the videos onto a PC.
- Use the Windows Cloud viewer, which requires that you select videos on the camera, upload *to* the cloud server, and then back down from there to your local machine. With my crappy-ass 800kbps upload speed, that's *hours* per video. Useless.

But the good news is that the web interface to the Blackvue cameras is well-known. There are Windows options that, once you're connected, allow you to direct-download video files from the camera to your PC, and just use the Windows viewer app (which is actually pretty darn good). I'm actually working on an app of my own to expand the functionality to auto-download on a schedule. That's just not going as smoothly as I'd like due to the manual intervention required to reconnect the camera to WiFi. I reported this to Blackvue, and maybe they'll update the firmware to make that more reliable.

I mention the above, because I'd like to see more talk of this in reviews of dash cams with alleged WiFi capabilities. I'd love to see reviews answer an simple question: "How do I get the camera videos onto my Windows PC without having to remove the microSD?". I think more coverage of those idiosyncrasies may shape popularity of various models.

Brad.