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Billet Technology Catch Can Help - Not Impressed - 2018 WK2 5.7L

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I just received my Billet Technology Catch can after reading reviews. It is installed and I have some concerns...including possible decision to return and restore to stock. The instructions were extremely basic and it shouldn't have been this hard, but attached is a picture of it installed. (3) Questions I'm hoping someone can help with as it is the weekend and Billet Technology is closed.

1. When installed I can barely access the oil dipstick right behind/below it (you can see a tiny bit of yellow in the pic. It came with some sort of bracket (sitting on fuse box in picture), and the website mentions that a bracket for 2018+ is available and references some stock picture and mentions "module cover" but I don't see any picture on their site nor understand what they are referring to with "module cover. Can someone with a 2018+ tell me what I've done wrong and how to fix it? Ideally, it will restore easy access to the dip stick and reduce some pressure being applied by one of the hoses to the radiator overflow tank hose.
2. In addition, it is installed in a somewhat tight space that makes it very difficult to get fingers on the bottom to empty and screw back on. Is this correct?

Thanks for help in advance.
 

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Whats puzzling to me is if catch cans are that good why don't the OEM designers incorporate them into the engines one way or another. Even somehow returning the oil back into the oil pan.
 
#12 ·
I have the same setup as you with the Hemi. First of all don't send it back. I just bent the dipstick tube slightly towards the engine and there is plenty of room now to pull it. Second the crud and slime that catch can collects in the winter is crazy. I can't believe how quickly it gets full. Check it often and never ever dump it back in the crankcase. Water, oil, slime, yuck! dump it out in your waste oil container. Catch cans are a must for the Hemi. I was skeptical at first until i saw the slime in there last winter.
 
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Thanks all...I'll see what BT says and will consider "bending" the pipe that the dipstick goes into. Fortunately, the jeep dipstick is more of a cable than cars with the "blade." Out of curiosity...with 17K miles on mine when catch can went on, throttle body should still be relatively clean, correct? When examining the plastic PCV hard connector tube, I didn't see anything in there.

P.S. Anyone with a 18+ 5.7L have a picture that shows how the provided "bracket spacer" is supposed to be used?
 
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Thanks all...I'll see what BT says and will consider "bending" the pipe that the dipstick goes into. Fortunately, the jeep dipstick is more of a cable than cars with the "blade." Out of curiosity...with 17K miles on mine when catch can went on, throttle body should still be relatively clean, correct? When examining the plastic PCV hard connector tube, I didn't see anything in there.

P.S. Anyone with a 18+ 5.7L have a picture that shows how the provided "bracket spacer" is supposed to be used?
I have the same setup installed on my 2014 5.7 and it's just like yours. Tight fit but workable.

To the question of it changing the emissions... all the blowby that blows by still gets sucked back into the engine, the catch can is a completely closed system. It's just letting the oil mist drop out into the can instead of that going back into the engine. I don't have cold winter where I live and have never found anything in the can but plain old oil. I sent off a sample for oil analysis of what got collected over about 5000 miles and they found nothing in the oil but the usual stuff that's in used oil.

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Because of the Engine Oil Dipstick, and the difficulty emptying it (plus the other modifications that i made) I mounted my Billet Technology Catch can on the firewall. Easy to get to, doesn't interfere with other service items (dipstick).

Because of the amount of condensation (water) and other contaminates that I get out of my catch can, I don't dare pour it back into the engine.... eww lol

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The blowby collected in the catch can is not motor oil for those who are confused, it is combustion chamber residue full of really nasty hydrocarbons.
IF your catch can is filling at 5k intervals, that is way too much.... either an unhealthy engine, or it is all condensate/mayo collecting in cold temps. Mine only collects a few spoonfuls at 7k interval oil changes, has 170k , driven hard and always has been that way.
 
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I don't know what's in your catch can but what's in mine is motor oil. Mine doesn't fill but it catches more than I would have expected. I would estimate mine would fill after 10,000 + miles if I never emptied it. I don't doubt that in colder climates there can be more nasty condensates people would capture that I just don't get down here in the AZ heat. That stuff just doesn't condense out here and goes back into the combustion chamber and burns up.
 
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I just changed my oil yesterday at 6k miles and it was about 70% full of oil. It has 32k on it now and it gets short tripped 90% of the time. I'm not really surprised by that much because the 5.7 in my car does about the same amount. It gets changed this weekend so I'll see what it looks like. I've seen others that get more than mine in them and I've talked to others that get very little in them so there's no real guide.
 
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I never got an e-mail response but got a hold of a BT rep by phone. I was told:
1) The dipstick is in different locations for different WK2s. Sometimes it is a little farther back and sometimes it is right behind the catch can. Not much can be done. To me the bracket looks like it was made for the 6.4L and they used it for the 5.7L too and it is a little too long...thus covering the dipstick.
2) The spacer is meant for the SRT or Limited X where you need something to mount the cover over the PCM after installing the catch can. Some people were buying it separately because they were buying cosmetic covers for WK2's without the vented hood. BT started putting them in orders automatically.
 
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Yours look like you may actually be able to access the dip stick without issue. Either your dipstick is a little farther back, or they used a different length bracket a few years ago. The inlet and outlet connections of your catch can are also oriented differently. I was curious if I could reorient mine but they didn't budge when I applied a little force to them so I figure they aren't adjustable. It also looks like that in your WK2 model year, the PCM has a little more clearance from the bracket and mounting bolts.
 
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Well...I'm sold. I'm currently in Mississippi (soon to be Florida) so it has been warm and humid here for a while now. However, after about 1K miles with the catch can on I decided to take a look. A little more than a teaspoon I guess of oil in there...it covered the bottom of the can. Cleaned out the catch can with some grill degreaser and put it back on. Definitely doing it's job. Also makes me glad I swapped out the heater hose for actual PCV hose (rated to withstand oil).
 
#44 ·
If you have these in cold climate, be prepared to empty it a lot since the condensate of water vapor turns it into coffee snot. Mine fits so that you can still remove the dipstick but it is awkward.
 

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#46 ·
I'm hoping it isn't something wrong. I just got my oil changed today and watched the tech put in exactly 7 quarts as required. When I got home I took off the catch can...admittedly it was more difficult to unscrew this time...as if under suction (maybe that is what happened) and drained a few teaspoons of used oil (after about 1500 miles) and put it back together. I actually found that if you unscrew the allen bolt on the arm, it was easier to screw/unscrew. Anyways, after I put it back together, I went to change my air filter. This morning the air box (top and bottom) were bone dry, and have always been. When I opened up to put in the filter I found the corner of the old filter had oil on it (on the top) and several drips ended up in the lower box. It appeared to be new oil and came from the tube on the upper box. I cleaned everything up with some kitchen degreaser and will find out tomorrow if it was a one-time thing. Jeep dealer said the PCV is a 50K+ mile part and I only have 20K...I don't think it has failed. Did I do something wrong with the way I emptied the catch can such that I somehow induced pressure on a line that emptied into the air filter box?
 
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I'm hoping it isn't something wrong. ... Did I do something wrong with the way I emptied the catch can such that I somehow induced pressure on a line that emptied into the air filter box?
There isn't any pressure in the PVC system, only vacuum. As the engine gets a few miles on it we do tend to get a little blow-by which does put a little pressure in the crankcase, but nothing the PVC system can't keep up with.

It is possible, while the technician was filling the the engine with oil, that it was filled faster than the fill port can handle (the oil can come up to the top of the fill port without over flowing), this would allow some oil to get into the fresh air hose (the little host that runs from the intake manifold to the air filter housing), and pushed/sucked into your air filter housing, and on to your air filter.

Even I have filled my engine with oil too fast and got some oil in my air filter housing (first hand experience. lol).

... unless your piston rings are so bad that you are actually blowing some oil into your air filter housing. I do not believe this is the case with your vehicle.