[Sarge]

I’m sure it’s repairable, and probably pretty easily, the real trouble with these, like a lot of cars that haven’t been in production that long, is diagnosing it.

I would have the dealer check the steering rack (some have been found loose) and all the suspension joints and connections. Usually a bearing or CV makes more of a grinding or clunk, where all the other non-rotating stuff will clunk. I’ve heard of strut towers or subframe bushings causing clunks in other brands, so there’s lots to check unfortunately.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

... but if you want complete reliability coils are the answer, regardless of who the manufacturer is...

Oddly, I have seen many car shows/video where european cars have broken coil springs. I was just discussing that with my dad when we were watching some Ford Model A stuff and how springs can seem to last forever. But not in the UK/EU apparently. I know I have heard of MB/BWM with broken coils, I can't recall specifics though.

 

[SC_JGC]

Ugh.

Really hoping it's nothing big, otherwise I'm gonna be a problem for Jeep and getting rid of this thing.

Have you thought about another 4Runner?

 

[Sarge]

Oddly, I have seen many car shows/video where european cars have broken coil springs. I was just discussing that with my dad when we were watching some Ford Model A stuff and how springs can seem to last forever. But not in the UK/EU apparently. I know I have heard of MB/BWM with broken coils, I can't recall specifics though.

I’ve heard of leaf springs breaking, and saw that happen a couple times in Africa this summer on land cruisers, but I’ve never heard of that in the VAG, BMW or Mercedes communities.

Not saying it doesn’t happen, but I’ve never heard of it. I imagine if you’re using it in a really salty environment and driving it on rough roads are just driving it hard it could happen eventually. The probability of that happening with no reason to suspect anything was about to fail seems vastly lower than all the things that can go wrong with these air suspensions.

that said, I’ve also never had a single problem with the air suspension on my old all road, and the rear air suspension on my wife’s BMW wagon only failed because water got in the trunk and the pump just ran forever until it burned itself out.

I’ve definitely seen a lot of range rovers and other cars with air suspension‘s riding on the rear bump stops though.

 

[pinetar]

Have you thought about another 4Runner?

At this point, sure. It was a way more reliable car, but much less refined.

 

[pinetar]

Hmm… think I found my issue.

Is that the sway bar disconnect or what?

It’s got 2,300 miles on it and never been off-road or touched anything that would justify this snapping.

Beyond annoyed right now. Dealer is keeping it for who knows how long.

 

[SC_JGC]

At this point, sure. It was a way more reliable car, but much less refined.

I love the 4Runners and agree they are not as refined as the JGC, have you looked into the Lexus version?

For the past two months or so, have been driving a Toyota Rav 4 and Tacoma Double Cab Off Road Package - not the best in gas, but reliable, especially consider they are rental cars

 

[SC_JGC]

View attachment 246377

Hmm… think I found my issue.

Is that the sway bar disconnect or what?

It’s got 2,300 miles on it and never been off-road or touched anything that would justify this snapping.

Beyond annoyed right now. Dealer is keeping it for who knows how long.

Ouch, broke at the weld. Wonder if there are any aftermarket ones that are a better quality available yet?

 

[pinetar]

Ouch, broke at the weld. Wonder if there are any aftermarket ones that are a better quality available yet?

I’m unsure, but I doubt anything is available aftermarket for a WL.

Service agent said it’s a $5,000 part.

 

[SC_JGC]

I’m unsure, but I doubt anything is available aftermarket for a WL.

Service agent said it’s a $5,000 part.

The part or the part and cost of labour?

 

[pinetar]

I love the 4Runners and agree they are not as refined as the JGC, have you looked into the Lexus version?

For the past two months or so, have been driving a Toyota Rav 4 and Tacoma Double Cab Off Road Package - not the best in gas, but reliable, especially consider they are rental cars

Wish I could afford a Lexus. I’d choose them over Jeep all day.

 

[pinetar]

The part or the part and cost of labour?

The part.

 

[pinetar]

flimsy POS View attachment 246378

Not just any flimsy POS, this is the Trailhawk off-road spec POS.

Does Jeep seriously think anyone can be confident rock crawling or even climbing a dirt hill with this kind of quality control? (rhetorical q)

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edit: Sorry for the ranting and taking over the thread with this.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

View attachment 246377

Hmm… think I found my issue.

Is that the sway bar disconnect or what?

It’s got 2,300 miles on it and never been off-road or touched anything that would justify this snapping.

Beyond annoyed right now. Dealer is keeping it for who knows how long.

I'd love to see a more wide angle view of that area, is that a spar that goes to the sway bar bushing? What is the other end still connected to? (and how would you change the bushings with a bar welded to the housing?
Also, what is this?

 

[nevmx]

I had the same problem. 2022 Trailhawk came with a clunk from the factory. Eventually the sway bar snapped. Dealership replaced front left air shock and the sway bar. Cost something like $6000 for the full repair (under warranty of course).

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Isn't this in yellow the actual sway bar?

 

[pinetar]

Isn't this in yellow the actual sway bar?
View attachment 246396

Correct.

But that's some sort of linkage to it that broke. I guessed it was part of the electronic disconnect, but I don't know for sure. The service agent had no idea either.

 

[pinetar]

I'd love to see a more wide angle view of that area, is that a spar that goes to the sway bar bushing? What is the other end still connected to? (and how would you change the bushings with a bar welded to the housing?
Also, what is this?
View attachment 246391

It's part of the subframe. Looks like the transmission crossmember mounting point.

Nothing related to the problem at hand though, I'm pretty sure.

I had the same problem. 2022 Trailhawk came with a clunk from the factory. Eventually the sway bar snapped. Dealership replaced front left air shock and the sway bar. Cost something like $6000 for the full repair (under warranty of course).

Well, happy and equally not stoked to hear this is a weak point across the lineup.

I hope someone comes out with something better, soonish.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Correct.

But that's some sort of linkage to it that broke. I guessed it was part of the electronic disconnect, but I don't know for sure. The service agent had no idea either.

Looks like what broke is simply a brace of some sort, it would have to be bolted on the other end so the sway bar bushing mount could be removed.
I'll poke around online.

 

[pinetar]

Looks like what broke is simply a brace of some sort, it would have to be bolted on the other end so the sway bar bushing mount could be removed.
I'll poke around online.

Service sheet says, "sway bar disconnect broke at sway bar bushing cover."